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You seem strangely concerned about the health risks of a one-off/low production car that you will probably never encounter on the road. Personally I'm much mor

by gavia1 7y ago

You seem strangely concerned about the health risks of a one-off/low production car that you will probably never encounter on the road. Personally I'm much more concerned about the 100s of diesel powered buses that run 24/7 across cities such as London, and the huge amount of particulate pollutants they emit into our lungs.

rakoo 7y ago
The 100s of diesel buses probably emit less than the 2000s of individual cars they replace, so you should be relatively happy that they are here and even concerned there aren't more
- gavia1 7y ago
  Not really. People are already discouraged from driving private vehicles in London during the week with the £10 congestion charge, which along with parking prices, makes it too expensive to drive to work in Central London for the vast majority of workers. In other words, I don't believe removing buses would increase cars. So our problem is really the buses, and they are very dirty (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-38157860 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-38157860).
  - rakoo 7y ago
    I do agree that diesel pollutes a lot, but if they were removed workers would still need a way to go to work. I think the problem is that there are still cars on the road, which means the bus service (even dirty) should go to even more places and have more flexible schedules
Scoundreller 7y ago
My concern is the thought that individual exceptions be made because it’s everyone else in aggregate that causes most of the damage. Because that’s always true. The entire purpose of regulations would fall apart if anyone that wanted could exempt themselves. I disagree with systems that allow the wealthy to opt-out of regulations that exist for the benefit of all.
- gavia1 7y ago
  Plenty of non-wealthy people build one-off/low production cars that would fall under the same umbrella: restoration and replicas of classic cars, kit cars such as Caterhams and Westfields, custom coachworks on frames, etc. In the U.K there are regulations and processes for checking the road worthyness and safety for all of the above: https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-registration https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-registration and http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1986/1078/contents/made http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1986/1078/contents/made

by gavia1 7y ago

rakoo 7y ago

The 100s of diesel buses probably emit less than the 2000s of individual cars they replace, so you should be relatively happy that they are here and even concerned there aren't more

gavia1 7y ago
Not really. People are already discouraged from driving private vehicles in London during the week with the £10 congestion charge, which along with parking prices, makes it too expensive to drive to work in Central London for the vast majority of workers. In other words, I don't believe removing buses would increase cars. So our problem is really the buses, and they are very dirty (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-38157860 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-38157860).
- rakoo 7y ago
  I do agree that diesel pollutes a lot, but if they were removed workers would still need a way to go to work. I think the problem is that there are still cars on the road, which means the bus service (even dirty) should go to even more places and have more flexible schedules

Scoundreller 7y ago

My concern is the thought that individual exceptions be made because it’s everyone else in aggregate that causes most of the damage. Because that’s always true. The entire purpose of regulations would fall apart if anyone that wanted could exempt themselves. I disagree with systems that allow the wealthy to opt-out of regulations that exist for the benefit of all.

gavia1 7y ago
Plenty of non-wealthy people build one-off/low production cars that would fall under the same umbrella: restoration and replicas of classic cars, kit cars such as Caterhams and Westfields, custom coachworks on frames, etc. In the U.K there are regulations and processes for checking the road worthyness and safety for all of the above: https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-registration https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-registration and http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1986/1078/contents/made http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1986/1078/contents/made