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Firefox banned Dissenter[1], a plug-in that did nothing nefarious - only enables browser users of the plug-in to chat / comment with each other about webpages.

Firefox banned Dissenter[1], a plug-in that did nothing nefarious - only enables browser users of the plug-in to chat / comment with each other about webpages. They did this for political reasons. Regardless of what kind of trash talk takes place on Dissenter, the point is that nobody is forced to use it. My point: neither Google nor Mozilla should be trusted and both seek to be your totalitarian Internet overlord. 1. https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/36490/firefox-and-chrome-banned-dissenter https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/36490/firefox-and-chrome-ban...

jackewiehose 7y ago
But it looks like they didn't "ban" it, they just don't want to host it on their store [1]. As long as they don't refuse to sign these "problematic" add-ons, this is fine (although it's worrying that they are able to do so because of this signing-required-crap). [1]: https://reclaimthenet.org/firefox-rejects-free-speech-bans-free-speech-commenting-plugin-dissenter-from-its-extensions-gallery https://reclaimthenet.org/firefox-rejects-free-speech-bans-f...
- the_jeremy 7y ago
  At least one extension maintainer (yappy, a pushbullet alternative) says that they are unable to sign their extension because of the 3rd party library they use, so while they have both firefox and chrome extensions, only the chrome one works.
  - jackewiehose 7y ago
    That would be very disappointing from mozilla! I only found a support-thread from yappy in 2016 but if this is still up-to-date there should be an outrage on HN's frontpage. I also made a simple, private(!) extension before I learned about the signing-requirement and that it won't work without uploading it. So I canceled my career as an extension-writer and just went to bed angry. They really fucked this up (without even mentioning the "armag-addon").
DiseasedBadger 7y ago
Use WaterFox or Pale Moon. XULExtensions are fantastic. I have darkmode on, on the entire internet. Had it for eternities before ff, thanks to an extension. Great reader extension. Even ported (to webextensions) extensions still have great versions for xul.
ClassyJacket 7y ago
Agreed. The fact that Firefox doesn't allow unsigned addons is proof enough of this.
- abdullahkhalids 7y ago
  You can't have both the ability to install unsigned addons and one-click addons in a software designed for average Joe, and not end up with massive malware problems. https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2015/04/15/the-case-for-extension-signing/ https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2015/04/15/the-case-for-exte... Mozilla could not advertise Firefox as secure if they allowed unsigned addons.
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jackewiehose 7y ago

But it looks like they didn't "ban" it, they just don't want to host it on their store [1]. As long as they don't refuse to sign these "problematic" add-ons, this is fine (although it's worrying that they are able to do so because of this signing-required-crap). [1]: https://reclaimthenet.org/firefox-rejects-free-speech-bans-free-speech-commenting-plugin-dissenter-from-its-extensions-gallery https://reclaimthenet.org/firefox-rejects-free-speech-bans-f...

the_jeremy 7y ago
At least one extension maintainer (yappy, a pushbullet alternative) says that they are unable to sign their extension because of the 3rd party library they use, so while they have both firefox and chrome extensions, only the chrome one works.
- jackewiehose 7y ago
  That would be very disappointing from mozilla! I only found a support-thread from yappy in 2016 but if this is still up-to-date there should be an outrage on HN's frontpage. I also made a simple, private(!) extension before I learned about the signing-requirement and that it won't work without uploading it. So I canceled my career as an extension-writer and just went to bed angry. They really fucked this up (without even mentioning the "armag-addon").

DiseasedBadger 7y ago

Use WaterFox or Pale Moon. XULExtensions are fantastic. I have darkmode on, on the entire internet. Had it for eternities before ff, thanks to an extension. Great reader extension. Even ported (to webextensions) extensions still have great versions for xul.

ClassyJacket 7y ago

Agreed. The fact that Firefox doesn't allow unsigned addons is proof enough of this.

abdullahkhalids 7y ago
You can't have both the ability to install unsigned addons and one-click addons in a software designed for average Joe, and not end up with massive malware problems. https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2015/04/15/the-case-for-extension-signing/ https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2015/04/15/the-case-for-exte... Mozilla could not advertise Firefox as secure if they allowed unsigned addons.
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