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> Like the fact that I can have like 20 tabs open at the same time before they start hiding themselves from me. I didn't like it either at first, but then I re

by jolmg 7y ago

> Like the fact that I can have like 20 tabs open at the same time before they start hiding themselves from me. I didn't like it either at first, but then I realized it was just because it was different than Chrome. In time, I liked how Firefox did it better. You're always guaranteed to see the favicon and 3 or 4 letters of the tab's title no matter how many tabs you have. In Chrome, you're eventually looking at triangles or lines with no way to differentiate them.

Hamuko 7y ago
>You're always guaranteed to see the favicon and 3 or 4 letters of the tab's title no matter how many tabs you have. But I can't see the tab's favicon or letters because they're 100% hidden from me. I currently have 49 tabs open in Chrome. If I set Firefox to be the same exact width as Chrome, I can open 27 tabs at the same time. If I open up the 28th, it starts hiding tabs. I actually have no issue with how Chrome does it. Just seeing the favicon is enough when dealing with a large number of tabs. EDIT: Just tested opening 49 tabs. None of the tabs show anything more than just the favicon and about 90% of the first letter. Not really sure how this is better than what Chrome does, which is show 49 favicons without scrolling.
- jolmg 7y ago
  > But I can't see the tab's favicon or letters because they're 100% hidden from me. You can scroll on the tab bar.
  - Hamuko 7y ago
    What's wrong with a fixed tab bar? Like the one in Chrome?
    - pwinnski 7y ago
      As stated above, "In Chrome, you're eventually looking at triangles or lines with no way to differentiate them."
      - Hamuko 7y ago
        There are favicons. And Firefox does nothing to alleviate the problem, since it too only shows favicons. It just makes switching tabs more painful.
        mindcrime 7y ago
        Favicons alone aren't really enough though. I routinely have multiple tabs open for Wikipedia, Youtube, Arxiv.org, Jira, Reddit, and even HN. With Firefox, you get the Favicon and at least the first few characters of the page title. And if you use the tab drop-down, you see all, or most, of the title (depending on how long it is).
        Hamuko 7y ago
        >With Firefox, you get the Favicon and at least the first few characters of the page title. I just tested that and it was absolutely false.
        mindcrime 7y ago
        I don't know what to tell you then. I'm typing this comment right now using Firefox, with a tab-bar full of tabs, and every visible tab has the favicon and a portion of the title visible. The rest can be found in the drop-down, with nearly the entire title displayed. Maybe there's some setting that controls this behavior, but my Firefox is pretty much completely stock. shrug
        Hamuko 7y ago
        Well, this is what I'm seeing on a pretty much stock Firefox. https://0x0.st/zB86.png https://0x0.st/zB86.png
        mindcrime 7y ago
        Interesting. Maybe we're running different versions, or maybe it's somehow dependent on screen resolution or something. Weird. For me, Firefox has always displayed at least the first few characters of the title. https://pasteboard.co/Ih7GvRO.png https://pasteboard.co/Ih7GvRO.png
    - mindcrime 7y ago
      There's nothing inherently wrong with it, but it doesn't work well once you get beyond a certain number of tabs (the number will vary depending on your screen size, etc., blah). At some point, all the tabs are scrunched down to being indistinguishable blobs. Firefox, at least, doesn't have that issue, thanks to the scrolling tab bar. And the drop-down that shows all your tabs is, to me, a sufficient answer to the "my tabs are hidden from me" concern. I understand that some people will feel differently of course. And it's less of an issue in the first place if you don't keep ludicrous numbers of tabs open.
      - Hamuko 7y ago
        >At some point, all the tabs are scrunched down to being indistinguishable blobs. I don't know what you're on about. I opened the maximum number of tabs that my browser window can have visible (~90) and at no point were they indistinguishable blobs. Every single one still had a favicon.
        mindcrime 7y ago
        To me, nothing but a favicon is exactly "an indistinguishable blog" since it does nothing to help me distinguish between the 10 arxiv.org tabs, or 7 or 8 Youtube tabs that I have open. shrug
        bradlys 7y ago
        This is something that bothers me when pair programming or working with co-workers who use a lot of tabs. I have to watch them fiddle between 10 jira tabs until they find the ticket. God forbid they misclick a few times (every time!) and then you get to see them hit a few other websites while all in the search of that only holy jira ticket tab.
- fencepost 7y ago
  You also have a list of all open tabs available from the dropdown arrow at the far right, but the tab width can be changed in about:config with browser.tabs.tabMinWidth. If you're looking for information on this preference, it went away between FF4 and FF57(?) but should be back and working now so you'll see a lot of old information about it being removed. Edit: FF58, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1404465 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1404465
sorenjan 7y ago
about:config > browser.tabs.tabMinWidth Change to something smaller.
Dylan16807 7y ago
> In Chrome, you're eventually looking at triangles or lines with no way to differentiate them. Chrome finally fixed that a couple months ago. The favicon-hiding behavior was awful though.

by jolmg 7y ago

Hamuko 7y ago

>You're always guaranteed to see the favicon and 3 or 4 letters of the tab's title no matter how many tabs you have. But I can't see the tab's favicon or letters because they're 100% hidden from me. I currently have 49 tabs open in Chrome. If I set Firefox to be the same exact width as Chrome, I can open 27 tabs at the same time. If I open up the 28th, it starts hiding tabs. I actually have no issue with how Chrome does it. Just seeing the favicon is enough when dealing with a large number of tabs. EDIT: Just tested opening 49 tabs. None of the tabs show anything more than just the favicon and about 90% of the first letter. Not really sure how this is better than what Chrome does, which is show 49 favicons without scrolling.

jolmg 7y ago
> But I can't see the tab's favicon or letters because they're 100% hidden from me. You can scroll on the tab bar.
- Hamuko 7y ago
  What's wrong with a fixed tab bar? Like the one in Chrome?
  - pwinnski 7y ago
    As stated above, "In Chrome, you're eventually looking at triangles or lines with no way to differentiate them."
    - Hamuko 7y ago
      There are favicons. And Firefox does nothing to alleviate the problem, since it too only shows favicons. It just makes switching tabs more painful.
      - mindcrime 7y ago
        Favicons alone aren't really enough though. I routinely have multiple tabs open for Wikipedia, Youtube, Arxiv.org, Jira, Reddit, and even HN. With Firefox, you get the Favicon and at least the first few characters of the page title. And if you use the tab drop-down, you see all, or most, of the title (depending on how long it is).
        Hamuko 7y ago
        >With Firefox, you get the Favicon and at least the first few characters of the page title. I just tested that and it was absolutely false.
        mindcrime 7y ago
        I don't know what to tell you then. I'm typing this comment right now using Firefox, with a tab-bar full of tabs, and every visible tab has the favicon and a portion of the title visible. The rest can be found in the drop-down, with nearly the entire title displayed. Maybe there's some setting that controls this behavior, but my Firefox is pretty much completely stock. shrug
        Hamuko 7y ago
        Well, this is what I'm seeing on a pretty much stock Firefox. https://0x0.st/zB86.png https://0x0.st/zB86.png
        mindcrime 7y ago
        Interesting. Maybe we're running different versions, or maybe it's somehow dependent on screen resolution or something. Weird. For me, Firefox has always displayed at least the first few characters of the title. https://pasteboard.co/Ih7GvRO.png https://pasteboard.co/Ih7GvRO.png
  - mindcrime 7y ago
    There's nothing inherently wrong with it, but it doesn't work well once you get beyond a certain number of tabs (the number will vary depending on your screen size, etc., blah). At some point, all the tabs are scrunched down to being indistinguishable blobs. Firefox, at least, doesn't have that issue, thanks to the scrolling tab bar. And the drop-down that shows all your tabs is, to me, a sufficient answer to the "my tabs are hidden from me" concern. I understand that some people will feel differently of course. And it's less of an issue in the first place if you don't keep ludicrous numbers of tabs open.
    - Hamuko 7y ago
      >At some point, all the tabs are scrunched down to being indistinguishable blobs. I don't know what you're on about. I opened the maximum number of tabs that my browser window can have visible (~90) and at no point were they indistinguishable blobs. Every single one still had a favicon.
      - mindcrime 7y ago
        To me, nothing but a favicon is exactly "an indistinguishable blog" since it does nothing to help me distinguish between the 10 arxiv.org tabs, or 7 or 8 Youtube tabs that I have open. shrug
        bradlys 7y ago
        This is something that bothers me when pair programming or working with co-workers who use a lot of tabs. I have to watch them fiddle between 10 jira tabs until they find the ticket. God forbid they misclick a few times (every time!) and then you get to see them hit a few other websites while all in the search of that only holy jira ticket tab.
fencepost 7y ago
You also have a list of all open tabs available from the dropdown arrow at the far right, but the tab width can be changed in about:config with browser.tabs.tabMinWidth. If you're looking for information on this preference, it went away between FF4 and FF57(?) but should be back and working now so you'll see a lot of old information about it being removed. Edit: FF58, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1404465 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1404465

sorenjan 7y ago

about:config > browser.tabs.tabMinWidth Change to something smaller.

Dylan16807 7y ago

> In Chrome, you're eventually looking at triangles or lines with no way to differentiate them. Chrome finally fixed that a couple months ago. The favicon-hiding behavior was awful though.