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Asked if the People’s Liberation Army planned any commemoration on June 4, defence ministry spokesman Wu Qian said on Thursday: "I do not agree with you for

Asked if the People’s Liberation Army planned any commemoration on June 4, defence ministry spokesman Wu Qian said on Thursday: "I do not agree with you for using the word ‘suppression’. I think these past 30 years, the stable process of China’s reform and development and the achievements that have been made are an answer to this question.” Stop buying crappy Chinese knock-offs and that excuse will fade.

geoka9 7y ago
What about the rest of the stuff we buy, 80% of which is still made in China?
- adventured 7y ago
  80% huh? China is about 24% of global manufacturing. Their share is also no longer increasing (their manufacturing sector has been net stagnant for years, as they tread water; moving up the ladder in some sectors, while cost-sensitive manufacturing flees to cheaper shores like Vietnam). The US is around 18% to 19% of global manufacturing (it was 28% as recently as 2002). China took the global lead in 2010. Other countries are also still very substantial manufacturing centers. Japan, as of 2016, for example still had a manufacturing output equal to 30% that of China (with an economy ~45% the size of China in that year). Germany has an economy 1/5 the size of the US, but it does about 1/3 the manufacturing output of the US. The US + Japan + Germany have a manufacturing output about 25% larger than China. https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R42135.pdf https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R42135.pdf
  - geoka9 7y ago
    Interesting. I just checked, most of the non-food brand name stuff I buy seems to be made in China. Looking at my last 6 purchases: a Lenovo laptop (China), HP desktop (China), Babolat shoes (China), Penn tennis balls (China), Panasonic rechargeable batteries (China), Fruit of the Loom socks (USA).
    - CharlesColeman 7y ago
      I agree with you, but it may very will be that Chinese manufacturing is over-represented in the high-volume consumer-goods sector. The US/Japan/Germany may have proportionally more of their output in low-volume but massively expensive products, many of which may have little direct consumer exposure.
      - mpwoz 7y ago
        Cars are one example.
_bxg1 7y ago
China's export economy hasn't been built on crappy knockoffs in 30 years.
- gamblor956 7y ago
  Right, it's been built on real-estate ponzi schemes for at least the last decade.
- lostlogin 7y ago
  A disproportionate number of iffy products are Chinese though. There are a couple of situation playing out here in NZ that are pretty bad. Weak steel that will fail under stress being the main one. When used in earthquake strengthening you can see the issue, and it seems to have caused train derailments here too. And we got a batch of dodgy locomotives. Fake milk caused financial problems for a NZ parent company, while in China it was a literal baby killer, with 54,000 hospitalised and 12 killed. Great products come out of Chiba but it has a long way to go. https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/107334763/reopening-of-steel-inquiry-risks-chinese-tension https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/107334763/reopenin... https://www.google.co.nz/amp/s/amp.rnz.co.nz/article/6442509a-9838-44e6-aacc-2f00a8c4d9ad https://www.google.co.nz/amp/s/amp.rnz.co.nz/article/6442509... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal
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soulofmischief 7y ago
Right after my government fixes stagnant wages and undoes the last 20 years of neoliberalist globalization, sure.
pimlottc 7y ago
Reposted quote in italics for better readability on mobile: Asked if the People’s Liberation Army planned any commemoration on June 4, defense ministry spokesman Wu Qian said on Thursday: "I do not agree with you for using the word ‘suppression’. I think these past 30 years, the stable process of China’s reform and development and the achievements that have been made are an answer to this question.”
taobility 7y ago
do you mind mail your iPhone/Xbox to me?

geoka9 7y ago

What about the rest of the stuff we buy, 80% of which is still made in China?

adventured 7y ago
80% huh? China is about 24% of global manufacturing. Their share is also no longer increasing (their manufacturing sector has been net stagnant for years, as they tread water; moving up the ladder in some sectors, while cost-sensitive manufacturing flees to cheaper shores like Vietnam). The US is around 18% to 19% of global manufacturing (it was 28% as recently as 2002). China took the global lead in 2010. Other countries are also still very substantial manufacturing centers. Japan, as of 2016, for example still had a manufacturing output equal to 30% that of China (with an economy ~45% the size of China in that year). Germany has an economy 1/5 the size of the US, but it does about 1/3 the manufacturing output of the US. The US + Japan + Germany have a manufacturing output about 25% larger than China. https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R42135.pdf https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R42135.pdf
- geoka9 7y ago
  Interesting. I just checked, most of the non-food brand name stuff I buy seems to be made in China. Looking at my last 6 purchases: a Lenovo laptop (China), HP desktop (China), Babolat shoes (China), Penn tennis balls (China), Panasonic rechargeable batteries (China), Fruit of the Loom socks (USA).
  - CharlesColeman 7y ago
    I agree with you, but it may very will be that Chinese manufacturing is over-represented in the high-volume consumer-goods sector. The US/Japan/Germany may have proportionally more of their output in low-volume but massively expensive products, many of which may have little direct consumer exposure.
    - mpwoz 7y ago
      Cars are one example.

_bxg1 7y ago

China's export economy hasn't been built on crappy knockoffs in 30 years.

gamblor956 7y ago
Right, it's been built on real-estate ponzi schemes for at least the last decade.
lostlogin 7y ago
A disproportionate number of iffy products are Chinese though. There are a couple of situation playing out here in NZ that are pretty bad. Weak steel that will fail under stress being the main one. When used in earthquake strengthening you can see the issue, and it seems to have caused train derailments here too. And we got a batch of dodgy locomotives. Fake milk caused financial problems for a NZ parent company, while in China it was a literal baby killer, with 54,000 hospitalised and 12 killed. Great products come out of Chiba but it has a long way to go. https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/107334763/reopening-of-steel-inquiry-risks-chinese-tension https://i.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/107334763/reopenin... https://www.google.co.nz/amp/s/amp.rnz.co.nz/article/6442509a-9838-44e6-aacc-2f00a8c4d9ad https://www.google.co.nz/amp/s/amp.rnz.co.nz/article/6442509... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal

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soulofmischief 7y ago

Right after my government fixes stagnant wages and undoes the last 20 years of neoliberalist globalization, sure.

pimlottc 7y ago

Reposted quote in italics for better readability on mobile: Asked if the People’s Liberation Army planned any commemoration on June 4, defense ministry spokesman Wu Qian said on Thursday: "I do not agree with you for using the word ‘suppression’. I think these past 30 years, the stable process of China’s reform and development and the achievements that have been made are an answer to this question.”

taobility 7y ago

do you mind mail your iPhone/Xbox to me?