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DIY facial recognition for porn sparks concern

40 points by errantspark 7y ago

DerfNet 7y ago
>His reasoning for making this program, he wrote, is “to have the right to know on both sides of the marriage.” After public outcry, he later claimed his intention was to allow women, with or without their fiancées, to check if they are on porn sites and to send a copyright takedown request. This was going to happen one way or the other regardless; I don't understand why it's so important for the author to spin his reasoning for making it.
- cr0sh 7y ago
  The author of the tweet (and supposed ident system) or the author of the article? I think if the latter - there was no "spin", just reporting. But if the former - then I'd say it's because the author knows they are in the wrong, but likely doesn't care until it starts to look bad for them, thus the duplicitous pivot.
  - milsorgen 7y ago
    The author of the system is completely in the right. People deserve to know who they are dealing with interpersonal matters, especially when it deal with matters of public record. Not everyone is completely gungho on feckless hedonism you know?
    - 54635124gddd 7y ago
      > People deserve to know who they are dealing with interpersonal matters, especially when it deal with matters of public record. There's no reason your boss, parents, or landlord deserve to know what films you've been in. People use stage names for that reason. Does one's spouse deserve to know? Probably. But it's your right to disclose or not disclose. No computer program should do it for you.
daenz 7y ago
The case of revenge-porn aside, public things are public, and making things public comes with consequences. If you are relying on the current lack of human ingenuity in connecting that public data together, you're going to be disappointed.
- JohnFen 7y ago
  > If you are relying on the current lack of human ingenuity in connecting that public data together, you're going to be disappointed. I'm not saying that you're wrong here. However, the effect that you're describing leads directly to a dystopian world that few people would actually want to be living in, and the only thing that an individual could do about it is to withdraw from society entirely, including never going out in public. There has to be some way of preventing that.
  - Joe-Z 7y ago
    No, what he is describing should directly lead to people carefully considering what they share online. I remember 15 years ago everybody knew that, now it's "oh, I get internet points for sharing every bar/restaurant/venue I go to?! let's do that!" (this was in reference to foursquare, apparently they are not a thing anymore?) Not posting your porn online because you're afraid someone will find out surely isn't a dystopian future.
    - JohnFen 7y ago
      What he is describing goes far beyond porn sites, or even the online space generally.
    - downrightmike 7y ago
      Foursquare has been licensing their data to Microsoft for millions at a time: https://techcrunch.com/2014/02/04/foursquare-cuts-15m-deal-with-microsoft-to-power-location-and-context-for-windows-and-mobile/ https://techcrunch.com/2014/02/04/foursquare-cuts-15m-deal-w...
  - guuhv 7y ago
devtul 7y ago
If having a partner that did porn doesn't bother you, this changes nothing. On the other hand, if it does bother the person, then it enables him/her to rightfully discriminate who will be his/her partner for life. Least I checked society still accept people to choose by their own discretion who they date.
jmpman 7y ago
I want to be able to take a picture of the cute bartender and have an app show me all the adult videos with performers that look most like her.
- jobigoud 7y ago
  This an obvious extension. And then you will just have to combine it with deepfake face swapping to close the loop.
  - jmpman 7y ago
    Deepfake isn’t required. I’m mostly wondering if that bartender was actually in that video I saw a few months ago. I’m likely right. Deepfake is still a bit creepy to be doing to anyone that isn’t Emma Watson.

40 points by errantspark 7y ago

>His reasoning for making this program, he wrote, is “to have the right to know on both sides of the marriage.” After public outcry, he later claimed his intention was to allow women, with or without their fiancées, to check if they are on porn sites and to send a copyright takedown request. This was going to happen one way or the other regardless; I don't understand why it's so important for the author to spin his reasoning for making it.

cr0sh 7y ago
The author of the tweet (and supposed ident system) or the author of the article? I think if the latter - there was no "spin", just reporting. But if the former - then I'd say it's because the author knows they are in the wrong, but likely doesn't care until it starts to look bad for them, thus the duplicitous pivot.
- milsorgen 7y ago
  The author of the system is completely in the right. People deserve to know who they are dealing with interpersonal matters, especially when it deal with matters of public record. Not everyone is completely gungho on feckless hedonism you know?
  - 54635124gddd 7y ago
    > People deserve to know who they are dealing with interpersonal matters, especially when it deal with matters of public record. There's no reason your boss, parents, or landlord deserve to know what films you've been in. People use stage names for that reason. Does one's spouse deserve to know? Probably. But it's your right to disclose or not disclose. No computer program should do it for you.

daenz 7y ago

The case of revenge-porn aside, public things are public, and making things public comes with consequences. If you are relying on the current lack of human ingenuity in connecting that public data together, you're going to be disappointed.

JohnFen 7y ago
> If you are relying on the current lack of human ingenuity in connecting that public data together, you're going to be disappointed. I'm not saying that you're wrong here. However, the effect that you're describing leads directly to a dystopian world that few people would actually want to be living in, and the only thing that an individual could do about it is to withdraw from society entirely, including never going out in public. There has to be some way of preventing that.
- Joe-Z 7y ago
  No, what he is describing should directly lead to people carefully considering what they share online. I remember 15 years ago everybody knew that, now it's "oh, I get internet points for sharing every bar/restaurant/venue I go to?! let's do that!" (this was in reference to foursquare, apparently they are not a thing anymore?) Not posting your porn online because you're afraid someone will find out surely isn't a dystopian future.
  - JohnFen 7y ago
    What he is describing goes far beyond porn sites, or even the online space generally.
  - downrightmike 7y ago
    Foursquare has been licensing their data to Microsoft for millions at a time: https://techcrunch.com/2014/02/04/foursquare-cuts-15m-deal-with-microsoft-to-power-location-and-context-for-windows-and-mobile/ https://techcrunch.com/2014/02/04/foursquare-cuts-15m-deal-w...
- guuhv 7y ago

devtul 7y ago

If having a partner that did porn doesn't bother you, this changes nothing. On the other hand, if it does bother the person, then it enables him/her to rightfully discriminate who will be his/her partner for life. Least I checked society still accept people to choose by their own discretion who they date.

jmpman 7y ago

I want to be able to take a picture of the cute bartender and have an app show me all the adult videos with performers that look most like her.

jobigoud 7y ago
This an obvious extension. And then you will just have to combine it with deepfake face swapping to close the loop.
- jmpman 7y ago
  Deepfake isn’t required. I’m mostly wondering if that bartender was actually in that video I saw a few months ago. I’m likely right. Deepfake is still a bit creepy to be doing to anyone that isn’t Emma Watson.