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"We're not being paranoid" No, but the amount of suggestive "Might" "Could" etc titles/articles now out there shows a whole other picture. China is now the new

"We're not being paranoid" No, but the amount of suggestive "Might" "Could" etc titles/articles now out there shows a whole other picture. China is now the new enemy. And everybody must know apparently. Even respectable news outlets can't resist the temptation of completely unfounded copying of the American media machine. I'm not stating China is so innocent, but sorry there is only one country in the world systematically spying, bombing and manipulating friend AND enemies alike. And that's the USA. So please, my dear Americans. Stop it yourself and we might lend you our ear again. Sincerely, a fellow world citizen, located in Europe.

_iyig 7y ago
>but sorry there is only one country in the world systematically spying, bombing and manipulating friend AND enemies alike. And that's the USA. *and Germany. Don’t forget, every U.S. (and Saudi) Abrams tank has a Rheinmetall cannon. https://spiegel.de/international/germany/german-intelligence-also-snooped-on-white-house-a-1153592.html https://spiegel.de/international/germany/german-intelligence... https://www.thelocal.de/20190311/germany-fourth-largest-exporter-of-arms-in-world-report https://www.thelocal.de/20190311/germany-fourth-largest-expo... https://www.euractiv.com/section/economy-jobs/news/germany-earned-2-9-billion-euros-from-greeces-debt-crisis/ https://www.euractiv.com/section/economy-jobs/news/germany-e...
adventured 7y ago
> there is only one country in the world systematically spying, bombing and manipulating friend AND enemies alike Your premise is clearly wrong. NATO bombed Libya. Every member of NATO is guilty. There are 29 nations in NATO. Here they are: Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Iceland, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, the United Kingdom the United States, Greece, Turkey, Germany, Spain, Czech, Hungary, Poland, Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Albania, Croatia, and Montenegro. Those nations are all very happy to have the US as their superpower shield to be pointed at a target when it's convenient (see the recent past: Kosovo; the US rapidly stopped a genocide the Europeans couldn't or wouldn't deal with in their own backyard). France aggressively lobbied the US to stay in the military conflict in Syria. In fact, Macron's lobbying is the only thing that kept the US involved as long as it was. South Korea and Japan are mostly happy every day that the US has its military present - and nuclear shield - to protect them from China and North Korea. Besides that, Russia was quite happy to put its military to use in Syria for its self-interest. When it comes to spying, the five eyes are all obviously guilty. Beyond that, every country of consequence spies to the extent it's able to. The European powers are all guilty of it.
- DiogenesKynikos 7y ago
  Germany sat out the bombing of Libya, much to the chagrin of the United States.
- ptx 7y ago
  > Kosovo; the US rapidly stopped a genocide ... The bombing part may have been rapid – especially when they bombed a civilian train[1] and misleadingly sped up the video of the event – but dealing with the aftermath[2] doesn't seem to be going as rapidly: "A decade on from the Nato bombing campaign, more than 90,000 Serbs are still in danger from unexploded cluster munitions, according to a recent report funded by the Norwegian foreign ministry. ... "At the current pace, it is estimated that it will take another 20 years to get rid of unexploded ordnance from Serbia." [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grdelica_train_bombing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grdelica_train_bombing [2] http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7960116.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7960116.stm
spectramax 7y ago
I feel like your comment resonates with deep anti-American prejudice by making lofty unsubstantiated claims and has a bit of condescending elitist sentiment. The reason why I read HN comments is for informative, objective and interesting arguments.

_iyig 7y ago

>but sorry there is only one country in the world systematically spying, bombing and manipulating friend AND enemies alike. And that's the USA. *and Germany. Don’t forget, every U.S. (and Saudi) Abrams tank has a Rheinmetall cannon. https://spiegel.de/international/germany/german-intelligence-also-snooped-on-white-house-a-1153592.html https://spiegel.de/international/germany/german-intelligence... https://www.thelocal.de/20190311/germany-fourth-largest-exporter-of-arms-in-world-report https://www.thelocal.de/20190311/germany-fourth-largest-expo... https://www.euractiv.com/section/economy-jobs/news/germany-earned-2-9-billion-euros-from-greeces-debt-crisis/ https://www.euractiv.com/section/economy-jobs/news/germany-e...

adventured 7y ago

> there is only one country in the world systematically spying, bombing and manipulating friend AND enemies alike Your premise is clearly wrong. NATO bombed Libya. Every member of NATO is guilty. There are 29 nations in NATO. Here they are: Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Iceland, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, the United Kingdom the United States, Greece, Turkey, Germany, Spain, Czech, Hungary, Poland, Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Albania, Croatia, and Montenegro. Those nations are all very happy to have the US as their superpower shield to be pointed at a target when it's convenient (see the recent past: Kosovo; the US rapidly stopped a genocide the Europeans couldn't or wouldn't deal with in their own backyard). France aggressively lobbied the US to stay in the military conflict in Syria. In fact, Macron's lobbying is the only thing that kept the US involved as long as it was. South Korea and Japan are mostly happy every day that the US has its military present - and nuclear shield - to protect them from China and North Korea. Besides that, Russia was quite happy to put its military to use in Syria for its self-interest. When it comes to spying, the five eyes are all obviously guilty. Beyond that, every country of consequence spies to the extent it's able to. The European powers are all guilty of it.

DiogenesKynikos 7y ago
Germany sat out the bombing of Libya, much to the chagrin of the United States.
ptx 7y ago
> Kosovo; the US rapidly stopped a genocide ... The bombing part may have been rapid – especially when they bombed a civilian train[1] and misleadingly sped up the video of the event – but dealing with the aftermath[2] doesn't seem to be going as rapidly: "A decade on from the Nato bombing campaign, more than 90,000 Serbs are still in danger from unexploded cluster munitions, according to a recent report funded by the Norwegian foreign ministry. ... "At the current pace, it is estimated that it will take another 20 years to get rid of unexploded ordnance from Serbia." [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grdelica_train_bombing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grdelica_train_bombing [2] http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7960116.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7960116.stm

spectramax 7y ago

I feel like your comment resonates with deep anti-American prejudice by making lofty unsubstantiated claims and has a bit of condescending elitist sentiment. The reason why I read HN comments is for informative, objective and interesting arguments.