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125% DPI on windows, and similarly, large font on Android systemwide, regularly cause problems. Should software accomodate those settings or is that up to the

125% DPI on windows, and similarly, large font on Android systemwide, regularly cause problems. Should software accomodate those settings or is that up to the user? What's the HN consensus oh that?

Someone1234 7y ago
Windows automatically sets 125% on this Surface Book. It isn't a user picked setting, it is an operating system default for certain displays. So another way to phase the question: "Should a user need to change a Windows' default setting for my site to work correctly?"
- ponyous 7y ago
  Is this for real? Is there any other scenario where 100% is not the default? Adding support for different zoom levels is not the same as just making a website responsive (there are differences in behaviour if I remember correctly).
  - jimbo1qaz 7y ago
    14" 1080p Windows laptops have overly small text at 100%. Lenovo uses 150% DPI by default.
thoughtpalette 7y ago
If 125% DPI is a standard for your users, of course you should accommodate for it when you can. UI development has always been developing for the most common denominator and then the best you can make it for the most amount of users. If the user has a manual zoom in the browser, there's not much you can do from a developer perspective.
- ponyous 7y ago
  Is there any data on that? I am interested how many people use different % DPI on desktop, what % of the people use scaled font sizes on iOS and Android.
  - thoughtpalette 7y ago
    There's plenty of resources out there for 'Browser Stats'. it would really depend on the projects target audience. I have not personally seen any numbers on DPI%, but I wouldn't be surprised if they exist. You can achieve some flexibility in layout for device, resolution and pixel ratio constraints using CSS media queries, it just depends how granular you want to go and how much time it takes to implement all the use cases from a business perspective (from experience)
  - newhotelowner 7y ago
    almost all iOS devices and the majority of Android devices DPI is > 100%. Almost all Macbooks DPI is > 100%. Majority of the new mid-high end windows laptop DPI > 100%. I don't think that matters developing web apps. Unless you are confusing with Ctrl/CMD + Plus font size increase.
- sureaboutthis 7y ago
  Which is why you do not and cannot target devices cause you cannot know what the user has set such things.
chronogram 7y ago
It’s an accessibility feature, so just like it’s proper to develop with screen readers in mind, and it is proper to have a readable contrast level, it is proper to support scaling.

125% DPI on windows, and similarly, large font on Android systemwide, regularly cause problems. Should software accomodate those settings or is that up to the user? What's the HN consensus oh that?

Someone1234 7y ago

Windows automatically sets 125% on this Surface Book. It isn't a user picked setting, it is an operating system default for certain displays. So another way to phase the question: "Should a user need to change a Windows' default setting for my site to work correctly?"

ponyous 7y ago
Is this for real? Is there any other scenario where 100% is not the default? Adding support for different zoom levels is not the same as just making a website responsive (there are differences in behaviour if I remember correctly).
- jimbo1qaz 7y ago
  14" 1080p Windows laptops have overly small text at 100%. Lenovo uses 150% DPI by default.

thoughtpalette 7y ago

If 125% DPI is a standard for your users, of course you should accommodate for it when you can. UI development has always been developing for the most common denominator and then the best you can make it for the most amount of users. If the user has a manual zoom in the browser, there's not much you can do from a developer perspective.

ponyous 7y ago
Is there any data on that? I am interested how many people use different % DPI on desktop, what % of the people use scaled font sizes on iOS and Android.
- thoughtpalette 7y ago
  There's plenty of resources out there for 'Browser Stats'. it would really depend on the projects target audience. I have not personally seen any numbers on DPI%, but I wouldn't be surprised if they exist. You can achieve some flexibility in layout for device, resolution and pixel ratio constraints using CSS media queries, it just depends how granular you want to go and how much time it takes to implement all the use cases from a business perspective (from experience)
- newhotelowner 7y ago
  almost all iOS devices and the majority of Android devices DPI is > 100%. Almost all Macbooks DPI is > 100%. Majority of the new mid-high end windows laptop DPI > 100%. I don't think that matters developing web apps. Unless you are confusing with Ctrl/CMD + Plus font size increase.
sureaboutthis 7y ago
Which is why you do not and cannot target devices cause you cannot know what the user has set such things.

chronogram 7y ago

It’s an accessibility feature, so just like it’s proper to develop with screen readers in mind, and it is proper to have a readable contrast level, it is proper to support scaling.