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They were documents. Why wouldn't they have just intercepted them in-place instead of sending them to the US? It doesn't make sense to be anything other than a

They were documents. Why wouldn't they have just intercepted them in-place instead of sending them to the US? It doesn't make sense to be anything other than an error and Huawei being paranoid (rightfully so, but still).

peterwwillis 7y ago
Possibly because if the USG were caught reading foreign companies' documents on foreign soil it would be a violation of countless international treaties, which would make the ongoing trade and infosec tensions worse, versus "whoops, this landed on our doorstep, we can do whatever we want on our soil". The fact that this can be easily chocked up to a logistical error is good cover.
- 9HZZRfNlpR 7y ago
  Let's be honest, America has been violation of so many treaties and rules they themselves have written that it really doesn't matter anymore. Some countries retaliate, but with different methods.
the-dude 7y ago
They just want you to think they were documents. The question is why ...
- wybiral 7y ago
  Are you now implying that Huawei is lying about them being documents to cover up what they were actually shipping or something? (I genuinely can't tell if this is a joke or not)
  - the-dude 7y ago
    My comments so far have been very tongue in cheek, I must admit. To me, it appears as a Chinese way of saying they are are as much at the mercy of US logistics as the Western World is at the mercy of Huawei's logistics ( 5G ). edit: even it when it is not true, the message comes across.
  - Scoundreller 7y ago
    Dunno about Huawei, but I’ve definitely sent door keys and thin EEPROM programmers as « documents » to save on shipping costs. They tend to have fewer customs issues too since they go through a separate stream in a lot of countries.
partiallypro 7y ago
They could be being paranoid, or they could be feeding mistrust of American corporations because the US has lead people to mistrust them. Russia has used similar tactics in the past to counter US measures.
- cyphar 7y ago
  The NSA has broken into Huawei's systems in the past[1]. I think it's more than reasonable for them to explore the possibility that this is a continuation of that pattern. [1]: https://techcrunch.com/2014/03/23/latest-snowden-allegations-nsa-hacks-huawei/ https://techcrunch.com/2014/03/23/latest-snowden-allegations...
  - partiallypro 7y ago
    Right...but the NSA wasn't so stupid in the past to leave a FedEx redirect message during an intercept. So, that's why the entire theory is nonsense. If they were intercepting, Huawei would have no idea, and would not be left with a FedEx change of status.

peterwwillis 7y ago

Possibly because if the USG were caught reading foreign companies' documents on foreign soil it would be a violation of countless international treaties, which would make the ongoing trade and infosec tensions worse, versus "whoops, this landed on our doorstep, we can do whatever we want on our soil". The fact that this can be easily chocked up to a logistical error is good cover.

9HZZRfNlpR 7y ago
Let's be honest, America has been violation of so many treaties and rules they themselves have written that it really doesn't matter anymore. Some countries retaliate, but with different methods.

the-dude 7y ago

They just want you to think they were documents. The question is why ...

wybiral 7y ago
Are you now implying that Huawei is lying about them being documents to cover up what they were actually shipping or something? (I genuinely can't tell if this is a joke or not)
- the-dude 7y ago
  My comments so far have been very tongue in cheek, I must admit. To me, it appears as a Chinese way of saying they are are as much at the mercy of US logistics as the Western World is at the mercy of Huawei's logistics ( 5G ). edit: even it when it is not true, the message comes across.
- Scoundreller 7y ago
  Dunno about Huawei, but I’ve definitely sent door keys and thin EEPROM programmers as « documents » to save on shipping costs. They tend to have fewer customs issues too since they go through a separate stream in a lot of countries.

partiallypro 7y ago

They could be being paranoid, or they could be feeding mistrust of American corporations because the US has lead people to mistrust them. Russia has used similar tactics in the past to counter US measures.

cyphar 7y ago
The NSA has broken into Huawei's systems in the past[1]. I think it's more than reasonable for them to explore the possibility that this is a continuation of that pattern. [1]: https://techcrunch.com/2014/03/23/latest-snowden-allegations-nsa-hacks-huawei/ https://techcrunch.com/2014/03/23/latest-snowden-allegations...
- partiallypro 7y ago
  Right...but the NSA wasn't so stupid in the past to leave a FedEx redirect message during an intercept. So, that's why the entire theory is nonsense. If they were intercepting, Huawei would have no idea, and would not be left with a FedEx change of status.