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It's not Intel, it's the end of Moore's law. Intel's problem is that they are not well positioned to capitalize on the specialized processors that will be requ
by dgacmu 7y ago
It's not Intel, it's the end of Moore's law. Intel's problem is that they are not well positioned to capitalize on the specialized processors that will be required to continue ekeing out advances for the next decade or two before we're entirely up a creek. :)
- jscott0918 7y agoreddit.com/r/boneappletea
- dgacmu 7y agoOh goodness, thanks. Fixed 'ekeing', which my phone apparently did not believe I'd said.
- cormacrelf 7y agoSo close! It's eking. Eke, eked, eking.
- api 7y agoMobile is the foot rub. (Autocorrect of "mobile is the future" I saw once.)
- mruts 7y agoThat’s ducking funny!
- lawrenceyan 7y agoFrom how Apple and AMD are doing with their own processors though, it seems like Intel is just fundamentally doing worse even as things become more difficult with smaller transistor sizes. Apple is going to replace Intel with their own processors because Intel has failed to meet requirements. AMD, with a shoestring budget basically on the verge of bankruptcy the entire time they were doing their R&D, managed to build out a new architecture that has provided amazing results while Intel has basically had nothing to show in the same time. But perhaps there's something I'm missing here. Is there a misconception or lack of information here on my end that needs to be clarified? I can only make my analysis largely as an outsider looking in when talking about semiconductors.
- dgacmu 7y agoIntel was ahead, and hit the wall first. Apple & AMD are not ahead, they're just catching up. I don't want to understate how big a problem that could be for Intel, of course. But they're also doing it on low margin parts, and Intel continues to make bank with their data center parts. I don't think any of this represents a short-term problem for Intel, other than the general downturn in processor sales because fewer people will need to upgrade. But I think it represents a very serious long-term threat. They have some really cool technical advances, like 3D xpoint. But I'm concerned that they do so badly on embedded and custom integration from a long-term perspective.
- vbezhenar 7y agoApple sold millions of iPhones with 7nm chips while Intel struggles to build comparable 10nm chips and keeps releasing 14+++ nm. AMD will release 7nm chips very soon. It does not seem like they are catching up. Quite the opposite.
- akvadrako 7y agoYou can’t compare nm between vendors - it’s just marketing numbers.
- throwaway2048 7y agoNot directly no, but the actual feature size and density of TSMC 7nm and Intel 10nm are comparable.
- pkaye 7y agoWhat about die size?
- throwaway2048 7y agoDie size is independent of process size, customers can order most any die size they want.
- ves 7y agoYou probably want to say “eking out,” not “eating out,” as the latter means something... very different.
- dgacmu 7y agoSomeday I will learn to triple check when I use speech recognition.
- cozzyd 7y agoThey did buy Altera didn't they?