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I will try and switch to a simpler phone Cat B35 to see if I can cut out smart phone addiction. The Cat B35 uses KaiOS which is a Firefox OS clone. I will also

by acd 7y ago

I will try and switch to a simpler phone Cat B35 to see if I can cut out smart phone addiction. The Cat B35 uses KaiOS which is a Firefox OS clone. I will also carry a pocket camera like a Sony Rx100 for taking good quality photos. I realize my mind is addicted to smart phones touch interfaces and applications and that phones are distracting me from reality. IE the haptic dopamine reward from touching the screen in combination with applications. The experiment is what you will gain from having a simpler device which is focused on call first. KaiOS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KaiOS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KaiOS

rarecoil 7y ago
> I will try and switch to a simpler phone Cat B35 to see if I can cut out smart phone addiction. The Cat B35 uses KaiOS which is a Firefox OS clone. I will also carry a pocket camera like a Sony Rx100 for taking good quality photos. I've been working on a similar project for a while, in order to see what the viability of reused Android hardware is if you make a minimal AOSP-based system. I'm trying to wean myself off of current-generation hardware as much as possible because honestly it's just not needed, and I don't want to feed the consumerist machine. I'm using a Nexus 5 I bought used for $40, with the Nexus heavily underclocked for power usage and only the simplest required apps on it. The biggest problem I have had with this phone is that battery life on earlier smartphones is abysmal. I did replace the battery for $7 and it's made a big difference, but there's a level at which the old phone hardware just can't keep up with app bloat if you're using some newer applications. For photos, even the old Nexus is fine for most use cases. For real photos,I just take along a used DX-sensor Nikon Coolpix A I bought on Craigslist.
chronogram 7y ago
Hey that compact camera idea is pretty good! With no clue about them, and looking at Wikipedia and the Sony website, I have still little clue. Could you link me some information about cameras? I see several different RX100 cameras and several, much cheaper, W8x0 ones. I’m bad at taking pictures but I still like to take some when there are these lambs by the side of cycling roads here for example, so those compact cameras could be nice to carry in the bag while my older iPhone SE is not the best at taking pictures.
- jazzyjackson 7y ago
  Not OP but I'm a fan of keeping up with camera tech. dpreview.com is my goto for comparing cameras. There are 7 different RX100's as Sony keeps upgrading it every year - mostly little things - more focus points, faster focus and light metering, higher frames per second... you really can't go wrong just buying the most expensive one in your budget, even the oldest ones will take great pictures -- they'll just be slower. Check out https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/buying-guide-best-pocketable-enthusiast-cameras https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/buying-guide-best-pocketabl... Also worth looking into, my favorite cameras are 'fixed prime' - there's no zoom so you have to be creative and zoom with your feet, and the lens is matched to the sensor and gives really surprising high quality shots without much effort. https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/buying-guide-best-fixed-prime-lens-cameras https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/buying-guide-best-fixed-pri... Happy shooting.
  - dingaling 7y ago
    > so you have to be creative and zoom with your feet Try that at an airshow!
  - chronogram 7y ago
    Thanks for the details! I’ve been reading that website for a bit now.
amelius 7y ago
But it doesn't support WhatsApp.
emptyparadise 7y ago
My problem is that simple phones suck. They're inconvenient to use. It is that much easier to use maps on an actual touch screen. I really think the problem is not smartphones themselves, but the applications we use.

by acd 7y ago

rarecoil 7y ago

> I will try and switch to a simpler phone Cat B35 to see if I can cut out smart phone addiction. The Cat B35 uses KaiOS which is a Firefox OS clone. I will also carry a pocket camera like a Sony Rx100 for taking good quality photos. I've been working on a similar project for a while, in order to see what the viability of reused Android hardware is if you make a minimal AOSP-based system. I'm trying to wean myself off of current-generation hardware as much as possible because honestly it's just not needed, and I don't want to feed the consumerist machine. I'm using a Nexus 5 I bought used for $40, with the Nexus heavily underclocked for power usage and only the simplest required apps on it. The biggest problem I have had with this phone is that battery life on earlier smartphones is abysmal. I did replace the battery for $7 and it's made a big difference, but there's a level at which the old phone hardware just can't keep up with app bloat if you're using some newer applications. For photos, even the old Nexus is fine for most use cases. For real photos,I just take along a used DX-sensor Nikon Coolpix A I bought on Craigslist.

chronogram 7y ago

Hey that compact camera idea is pretty good! With no clue about them, and looking at Wikipedia and the Sony website, I have still little clue. Could you link me some information about cameras? I see several different RX100 cameras and several, much cheaper, W8x0 ones. I’m bad at taking pictures but I still like to take some when there are these lambs by the side of cycling roads here for example, so those compact cameras could be nice to carry in the bag while my older iPhone SE is not the best at taking pictures.

jazzyjackson 7y ago
Not OP but I'm a fan of keeping up with camera tech. dpreview.com is my goto for comparing cameras. There are 7 different RX100's as Sony keeps upgrading it every year - mostly little things - more focus points, faster focus and light metering, higher frames per second... you really can't go wrong just buying the most expensive one in your budget, even the oldest ones will take great pictures -- they'll just be slower. Check out https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/buying-guide-best-pocketable-enthusiast-cameras https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/buying-guide-best-pocketabl... Also worth looking into, my favorite cameras are 'fixed prime' - there's no zoom so you have to be creative and zoom with your feet, and the lens is matched to the sensor and gives really surprising high quality shots without much effort. https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/buying-guide-best-fixed-prime-lens-cameras https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/buying-guide-best-fixed-pri... Happy shooting.
- dingaling 7y ago
  > so you have to be creative and zoom with your feet Try that at an airshow!
- chronogram 7y ago
  Thanks for the details! I’ve been reading that website for a bit now.

amelius 7y ago

But it doesn't support WhatsApp.

emptyparadise 7y ago

My problem is that simple phones suck. They're inconvenient to use. It is that much easier to use maps on an actual touch screen. I really think the problem is not smartphones themselves, but the applications we use.