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> Also I think all the people expelled for hate speech in EU could gain asylum in US. Who was expelled from the EU for hate speech?

krageon 7y ago
Nobody, there is nothing to see here.
sampo 7y ago
> Who was expelled from the EU for hate speech? At least Denmark and Austria have been planning to deport radical imams, especially when they have preached about killing Jews. Not sure about actual cases, though. https://www.thelocal.dk/20160303/denmark-eyes-deportation-of-foreign-imams https://www.thelocal.dk/20160303/denmark-eyes-deportation-of... https://www.vox.com/2018/6/8/17442240/austria-closing-mosques-kicking-out-imams https://www.vox.com/2018/6/8/17442240/austria-closing-mosque...
- sampo 7y ago
  Ok, found at least one actual case of deporting: https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2019/01/262482/denmark-deports-said-mansour-morocco/ https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2019/01/262482/denmark-depo... https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Mansour#Udsendelse_af_Danmark_(2019) https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Mansour#Udsendelse_af_Danm...
- VanPossum 7y ago
  Which shows that the initial statement "all the people expelled for hate speech in EU could gain asylum in US" is false: expelling foreigners for breaking hte law is not persecution in itself, and of course pro-ISIS advocates would not be illegible for asylum in the US. I suspect the GP had EU far right dudes in mind, but most such 'hate speech' is often basically "slander and/or harassment that happens to be also racist" and typically ends up with a fine: hardly 'persecution'. And even if we go from "all the people" to just "a handful of ideologues": why would the US say no to ISIS but yes to Nazis?
Iv 7y ago
I was mostly thinking of this guy: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/france-to-expel-pro-wife-beating-imam-1.976983 https://www.irishtimes.com/news/france-to-expel-pro-wife-bea...

krageon 7y ago

Nobody, there is nothing to see here.

sampo 7y ago

> Who was expelled from the EU for hate speech? At least Denmark and Austria have been planning to deport radical imams, especially when they have preached about killing Jews. Not sure about actual cases, though. https://www.thelocal.dk/20160303/denmark-eyes-deportation-of-foreign-imams https://www.thelocal.dk/20160303/denmark-eyes-deportation-of... https://www.vox.com/2018/6/8/17442240/austria-closing-mosques-kicking-out-imams https://www.vox.com/2018/6/8/17442240/austria-closing-mosque...

sampo 7y ago
Ok, found at least one actual case of deporting: https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2019/01/262482/denmark-deports-said-mansour-morocco/ https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2019/01/262482/denmark-depo... https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Mansour#Udsendelse_af_Danmark_(2019) https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Mansour#Udsendelse_af_Danm...
VanPossum 7y ago
Which shows that the initial statement "all the people expelled for hate speech in EU could gain asylum in US" is false: expelling foreigners for breaking hte law is not persecution in itself, and of course pro-ISIS advocates would not be illegible for asylum in the US. I suspect the GP had EU far right dudes in mind, but most such 'hate speech' is often basically "slander and/or harassment that happens to be also racist" and typically ends up with a fine: hardly 'persecution'. And even if we go from "all the people" to just "a handful of ideologues": why would the US say no to ISIS but yes to Nazis?

Iv 7y ago

I was mostly thinking of this guy: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/france-to-expel-pro-wife-beating-imam-1.976983 https://www.irishtimes.com/news/france-to-expel-pro-wife-bea...