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Yeah, and it also reveals what the world would look like if Windows phone won instead of android. Atleast for Android you have AOSP, which is atleast somewhat o
by enitihas 7y ago
Yeah, and it also reveals what the world would look like if Windows phone won instead of android. Atleast for Android you have AOSP, which is atleast somewhat open source. If Windows phone and iOS were the only two alternatives, a ban on a phone company like huwaei would be a death sentence. Can't do much with windows or iOS.
- kwanbix 7y agoAOSP is fully open source. What is not is google services.
- alkonaut 7y agoThe app ecosystem is a mess on AOSP. It feels like google just uses it to show a faux openness but there is no way that a non-enthusiast will get the experience they have in one of the 2 (formerly 3) major brand app stores. And that's really what this is about: app ecosystems. Making a good OS is easy, but getting mindshare/appshare is difficult (as microsoft learned the hard way). AOSP makes no difference I think. If you are locked out of the official store, you are locked out of "Android" as people recognize it.
- fspeech 7y agoEurope could disallow preintalled app stores so everyone can install their own app store of choice.
- enitihas 7y agoWould they do the same for iOS too?
- fspeech 7y agoI would assume any regulation will need to be vendor neutral so yes. I am just pointing out that Europe is not powerless even though I think the odds isn't high that they will do something like this.
- enitihas 7y agoSo basically making the mobile OSes more windows like in easily allowing people to install malware?
- 15155 7y agoThis is an intellectually dishonest argument as it conflates the definition of "malware" between platforms. Mobile application permission systems don't cease to exist in the absence of a sanctioned app store. The only thing that disappears is the ability for Google or others to completely remove an application that is abusing the permissions a user granted: but the permissions are still there. Even in the worst-case scenario, malware on modern phone operating systems is substantially more limited in disruptive and destructive power than what one can achieve on Windows without a UAC grant.
- gruez 7y ago>Mobile application permission systems don't cease to exist in the absence of a sanctioned app store. Permissions systems definitely do not anything against malware. See: all the flashlight apps with every permission under the sun. >Even in the worst-case scenario, malware on modern phone operating systems is substantially more limited in disruptive and destructive power than what one can achieve on Windows without a UAC grant. Sure, but it can still collect all your pictures, have access to your microphone/cameras, and tarck your location. It's better than full control of your device, but it's not that much better.
- gsich 7y agoI hope so. It's not a technical reason that there is only 1 store on iOS.
- petra 7y agoAnd everybody will still install Play, Because many apps need Google Play Services.
- alkonaut 7y agoWouldn't help. The only 2 viable stores out there are the apple and google official ones.
- enitihas 7y agoYeah, the entire Chinese android ecosystem is doing Okay with the official store. Would the same have been possible without Windows Phone? What would huwaei be able to do at all if they were selling Windows laptops. Android may not be linux but it is miles better than other mainstream mobile OSes.
- ansible 7y ago> Making a good OS is easy, but getting mindshare/appshare is difficult... Making a good OS is hard, and getting market share in an established market is very, very difficult.
- rvp-x 7y agoI assume a large company like Huawei can replicate the play store experience. Is there anything stopping them from creating a mirror of the most popular .apks?
- enitihas 7y agoCopyright?
- smadurange 7y agoA propreiatry software is better than a bullshit opensource software. At least you know what you are getting into.
- enitihas 7y agoThere shouldn't be any problem than. Huwaei or anyone else can make their own "proprietary" operating system, since it is better than "a bullshit opensource software", and they can happily get higher margins there and be happy forever.