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The hardware specs are "meh" at best, but the build quality is still better than the competitor.. I have a newer Thinkpad for work, and it feels cheap and plas

The hardware specs are "meh" at best, but the build quality is still better than the competitor.. I have a newer Thinkpad for work, and it feels cheap and plastic compared to my MBP. The Lenovo creaks when I pick it up with one hand, and just feels flimsy. The MBP feels solid and integrated. I'd love a 2013 MBP with modern components.

rayiner 7y ago
My X1 Carbon, which cost as much as a 13” MBP, has a plastic sticker for a bezel. It’s now peeling off.
- amiga-workbench 7y ago
  Good lord, I knew the newer Lenovo models were underwhelming but that's their flagship premium model. That's utterly unacceptable.
  - namibj 7y ago
    It's their thin-is-better lighter-is-more-important model. In the traditional 14-16" size, the T4xx/T5xx devices do what they are supposed to. A changable battery (while running, without tools) enables you to do things like swapping an empty battery for a full one, either by plugging in shortly, using a secondary battery in the case, or briefly shutting down. I don't want to carry that much energy with me all the time, but I still want the option to use the device without having significant downtime. A short break is fine, but that's 5-10 minutes, not 30+ for charging the battery.
    - amiga-workbench 7y ago
      I believe the hot-swappable batteries are a goner on the latest T series machines.
viraptor 7y ago
Thinkpad doesn't say much. What series? Thinkpads range from supermarket offer bin to mobile workstations like P1.
- jlarocco 7y ago
  It's a P52s. The fact that it matters is part of the problem. All of the Apple laptops feel solid and well put together.
  - viraptor 7y ago
    They have a price point where they can be made solid and well put together. Lenovo also sells cheap laptops of lower quality. Not sure why that's a problem. Or do you think people shouldn't be given cheaper options?
    - hombre_fatal 7y ago
      There are way too many options across too many series. I don't know how people even choose, much less a layman. > Or do you think people shouldn't be given cheaper options? This is a cheap rhetorical tactic.
      - viraptor 7y ago
        Sure, there's lots of models to choose from and potential for analysis paralysis. That's not what I understand the OP was complaining about though.
    - Dylan16807 7y ago
      Don't use the same name for the quality product and the flimsy product.

rayiner 7y ago

My X1 Carbon, which cost as much as a 13” MBP, has a plastic sticker for a bezel. It’s now peeling off.

amiga-workbench 7y ago
Good lord, I knew the newer Lenovo models were underwhelming but that's their flagship premium model. That's utterly unacceptable.
- namibj 7y ago
  It's their thin-is-better lighter-is-more-important model. In the traditional 14-16" size, the T4xx/T5xx devices do what they are supposed to. A changable battery (while running, without tools) enables you to do things like swapping an empty battery for a full one, either by plugging in shortly, using a secondary battery in the case, or briefly shutting down. I don't want to carry that much energy with me all the time, but I still want the option to use the device without having significant downtime. A short break is fine, but that's 5-10 minutes, not 30+ for charging the battery.
  - amiga-workbench 7y ago
    I believe the hot-swappable batteries are a goner on the latest T series machines.

viraptor 7y ago

Thinkpad doesn't say much. What series? Thinkpads range from supermarket offer bin to mobile workstations like P1.

jlarocco 7y ago
It's a P52s. The fact that it matters is part of the problem. All of the Apple laptops feel solid and well put together.
- viraptor 7y ago
  They have a price point where they can be made solid and well put together. Lenovo also sells cheap laptops of lower quality. Not sure why that's a problem. Or do you think people shouldn't be given cheaper options?
  - hombre_fatal 7y ago
    There are way too many options across too many series. I don't know how people even choose, much less a layman. > Or do you think people shouldn't be given cheaper options? This is a cheap rhetorical tactic.
    - viraptor 7y ago
      Sure, there's lots of models to choose from and potential for analysis paralysis. That's not what I understand the OP was complaining about though.
  - Dylan16807 7y ago
    Don't use the same name for the quality product and the flimsy product.