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I don't think it is in Samsung's or Sony's interest.

by mongol 7y ago

pmlnr 7y ago
so? China alone is a bigger market for smartphones, than EU + US together.
- adventured 7y ago
  The US is by far the most lucrative smartphone market. It's not even close. Most of the smartphone buyers in China are purchasing phones that the manufacturer makes effectively zero net profit on. When it comes to phones, Apple earns more in profit than every other competitor globally combined. Apple gets half its enormous profit just from the US market. Apple can afford to lose the entire Chinese market thanks to that fact (then they'd only generate a mere $45b in profit and would still be the world's most profitable company). For another example, while Google is printing massive profit via mobile search thanks to its Android position in the US and Europe, Baidu is losing money in China and has never been able to expand globally (and never will, they're largely hostage to the Chinese market). If you're Apple or Google and you can only choose one market to participate in, you choose the US. It's where all the margin is, because US consumers provide the largest-wealthiest market by far. Samsung also still actually sells phones in the US, whereas their market share has been entirely wiped out in China due to nationalism and poor Chinese consumers being unable to afford most of Samsung's phones.
dx034 7y ago
Why not? They also built on Android to have one common ecosystem with all the benefits of scale. If Huawei now builds their own App Store, Samsung risks losing customers in countries where Huawei already dominates. Building one together would at least keep the status quo.
- product50 7y ago
  Please use some sense. You are suggesting Samsung and Huawei - two of the fiercest competitors to collaborate on an OS? While the Occam's razor argument is that Samsung will just goto Android with Google's apps and bleed Huawei away.
- mongol 7y ago
  Because of their country of origin. They both are based in democracies and are unlikely to be embargoed like Chinese companies. What we see are symptoms of trade war between China and the west. South Korean and Japanese companies do not share the same role in this story as Huawei.
  - dx034 7y ago
    While I agree that South Korea and Japan are unlikely to face embargos, the trade war is not between China and the West. It's between China and US only. I don't think any Asian country is happy about this as no one wants to have to choose sides.

I don't think it is in Samsung's or Sony's interest.

by mongol 7y ago

I don't think it is in Samsung's or Sony's interest.

pmlnr 7y ago

so? China alone is a bigger market for smartphones, than EU + US together.

adventured 7y ago
The US is by far the most lucrative smartphone market. It's not even close. Most of the smartphone buyers in China are purchasing phones that the manufacturer makes effectively zero net profit on. When it comes to phones, Apple earns more in profit than every other competitor globally combined. Apple gets half its enormous profit just from the US market. Apple can afford to lose the entire Chinese market thanks to that fact (then they'd only generate a mere $45b in profit and would still be the world's most profitable company). For another example, while Google is printing massive profit via mobile search thanks to its Android position in the US and Europe, Baidu is losing money in China and has never been able to expand globally (and never will, they're largely hostage to the Chinese market). If you're Apple or Google and you can only choose one market to participate in, you choose the US. It's where all the margin is, because US consumers provide the largest-wealthiest market by far. Samsung also still actually sells phones in the US, whereas their market share has been entirely wiped out in China due to nationalism and poor Chinese consumers being unable to afford most of Samsung's phones.

dx034 7y ago

Why not? They also built on Android to have one common ecosystem with all the benefits of scale. If Huawei now builds their own App Store, Samsung risks losing customers in countries where Huawei already dominates. Building one together would at least keep the status quo.

product50 7y ago
Please use some sense. You are suggesting Samsung and Huawei - two of the fiercest competitors to collaborate on an OS? While the Occam's razor argument is that Samsung will just goto Android with Google's apps and bleed Huawei away.
mongol 7y ago
Because of their country of origin. They both are based in democracies and are unlikely to be embargoed like Chinese companies. What we see are symptoms of trade war between China and the west. South Korean and Japanese companies do not share the same role in this story as Huawei.
- dx034 7y ago
  While I agree that South Korea and Japan are unlikely to face embargos, the trade war is not between China and the West. It's between China and US only. I don't think any Asian country is happy about this as no one wants to have to choose sides.