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Well, Android is opensource so they will be able to just run it, but without that google crap such as gmail, maps, assistant, etc... Which sounds like a good th

by knocte 7y ago

Well, Android is opensource so they will be able to just run it, but without that google crap such as gmail, maps, assistant, etc... Which sounds like a good thing to me. I'll try to buy a new Huawei phone soon.

daxterspeed 7y ago
Huawei being a Chinese company are perfectly content with spying on you without Google trying to interfere. Be prepared in a few years when certain network requests just fail, like trying to send a comment mentioning 996.icu.
- pbhjpbhj 7y ago
  Which USA and USA based companies would never do; praise God for the USA defending us all from giving our money to their industrial opponents, right?
  - zwaps 7y ago
    To be fair, Apple has been fighting tooth and nail against the FBI decrypting their phones. Huawei, ZTE and consorts are literally owned by PRC cadre and are actively involved in infrastructure to spy on and terrorize minority groups in China, as well as getting caught spying and stealing IP abroad. I think there is no need to answer each post with Whataboutism, especially when the comparision is to tilted against Chinese companies.
    - pbhjpbhj 7y ago
      >Apple has been fighting tooth and nail against the FBI decrypting their phones // The problem is, for me, it's impossible to know if that's true or if that's the external appearance that's been designed. Nearly everyone in Apple wouldn't know either. Legally, it seems, NSA letters could force such a situation. AIR the much publicised event of 'FBI wanted to open someone's phone and Apple wouldn't' ultimately ended in a third party enabling it. So, this could easily have gone down that Apple said "we can't do that because it will kill our privacy angle in the market" and the FBI say "well just pass on the info to this third party" [eg some key needed to sign updates; or an update that decrypts all internal memories and dumps them to a port on boot, or whatever]. That's entirely undiscoverable and serves the interest of both FBI and Apple, FBI ideally want to have "backdoors" where it's publicly known "there is no backdoor".
stefan_ 7y ago
Heh, there will be a rude awakening when they try AOSP or the open-source Android.. "wait, it doesn't have a launcher?" No, seriously, AOSP is very far from useful. That's before you consider that to run Android on any sort of recent hardware, you need manufacturer support from the chips you are using, which you can't get if you are barred from trade with them.
- Markoff 7y ago
  Huawei has pretty much everything their own including launcher, dialer, email etc
- mappu 7y ago
  Hasn't AOSP always had a launcher? https://android.googlesource.com/platform/packages/apps/Launcher3/ https://android.googlesource.com/platform/packages/apps/Laun... is the current one.
- ulfw 7y ago
  Almost none of the Chinese phones use barebones Google Android. They all have their long established skins and launchers (EMUI, MIUI etc)

by knocte 7y ago

daxterspeed 7y ago

Huawei being a Chinese company are perfectly content with spying on you without Google trying to interfere. Be prepared in a few years when certain network requests just fail, like trying to send a comment mentioning 996.icu.

pbhjpbhj 7y ago
Which USA and USA based companies would never do; praise God for the USA defending us all from giving our money to their industrial opponents, right?
- zwaps 7y ago
  To be fair, Apple has been fighting tooth and nail against the FBI decrypting their phones. Huawei, ZTE and consorts are literally owned by PRC cadre and are actively involved in infrastructure to spy on and terrorize minority groups in China, as well as getting caught spying and stealing IP abroad. I think there is no need to answer each post with Whataboutism, especially when the comparision is to tilted against Chinese companies.
  - pbhjpbhj 7y ago
    >Apple has been fighting tooth and nail against the FBI decrypting their phones // The problem is, for me, it's impossible to know if that's true or if that's the external appearance that's been designed. Nearly everyone in Apple wouldn't know either. Legally, it seems, NSA letters could force such a situation. AIR the much publicised event of 'FBI wanted to open someone's phone and Apple wouldn't' ultimately ended in a third party enabling it. So, this could easily have gone down that Apple said "we can't do that because it will kill our privacy angle in the market" and the FBI say "well just pass on the info to this third party" [eg some key needed to sign updates; or an update that decrypts all internal memories and dumps them to a port on boot, or whatever]. That's entirely undiscoverable and serves the interest of both FBI and Apple, FBI ideally want to have "backdoors" where it's publicly known "there is no backdoor".

stefan_ 7y ago

Heh, there will be a rude awakening when they try AOSP or the open-source Android.. "wait, it doesn't have a launcher?" No, seriously, AOSP is very far from useful. That's before you consider that to run Android on any sort of recent hardware, you need manufacturer support from the chips you are using, which you can't get if you are barred from trade with them.

Markoff 7y ago
Huawei has pretty much everything their own including launcher, dialer, email etc
mappu 7y ago
Hasn't AOSP always had a launcher? https://android.googlesource.com/platform/packages/apps/Launcher3/ https://android.googlesource.com/platform/packages/apps/Laun... is the current one.
ulfw 7y ago
Almost none of the Chinese phones use barebones Google Android. They all have their long established skins and launchers (EMUI, MIUI etc)