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If you look at product changes per user-minute rather than just the percentage of products cancelled, Google APIs are probably more stable than those of any oth

If you look at product changes per user-minute rather than just the percentage of products cancelled, Google APIs are probably more stable than those of any other company.

cube00 7y ago
Too bad the pricing isn't (a la the Maps API recently)
coldtea 7y ago
Not compared to actually developer oriented companies with equally larger user bases, like Microsoft, Amazon, and even Oracle.
- panpanna 7y ago
  You mean the old Microsoft? The new Microsoft just cancelled UWP. Their latest attempt to scare the hell away all developers.
  - pjmlp 7y ago
    That is plain FUD spread by anti-UWP crowd. UWP is alive and well, just go check the BUILD 2019 sessions. Apparently some keep missing the point that all new Windows APIs are based on UWP. There is much so more to UWP that the store. The only thing that are doing is bringing the legacy stacks (Win32, Forms, WPF) and the modern one (WinUI, UWP) under the same umbrella.
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    - panpanna 7y ago
      Remember xna? How about Silverlight? Where is Windows Phone? You see, they don't have the courage to admit defeat. Just let it die and pretend it never existed.
      - coldtea 7y ago
        >How about Silverlight? Where is Windows Phone? Those never got any traction to begin with. If people aren't using it, they wont miss it.
        panpanna 7y ago
        Actually, they were fairly popular since they were the only viable option on certain platforms. Guess what happened to those platforms?
        ptx 7y ago
        People certainly did use it and are now suffering the consequences. The admin GUI for one popular CRM system is written in Silverlight – a natural choice since the rest of the system uses Win32, COM, .NET and pretty much every Microsoft technology you can think of from the past 25 years. Their new from-scratch rewrite is based on Python and web standards.
      - pjmlp 7y ago
        Yes, two victims of the WinDev vs DevTools internal wars pushed by Synfosky, with such a result that he ended up resigning. UWP was the fix to WinRT and UAP changes introduced by Sinosfky's team. Again, UWP is not only for Windows Phone, all Windows 10 new APIs are UWP based, there isn't any Win32 version of them. People are able to keep using their legacy skills to write new apps, because Microsoft seldom plays an Apple move, killing any possibility to keep using legacy stacks on modern OSes. If you miss XNA you can go use MonoGame, which Microsoft even advises on MSDN nowadays. And Blazor for Silverlight like use cases.
        panpanna 7y ago
        Do you realize what you just shrugged of more or less killed Windows phone??? When WP needed 3rd party games to have a chance in the consumer market Microsoft killed their fully functioning and very popular xna platform without explanation. For a while there was no replacement and the standard response from Microsoft was silence. Later Microsoft pointed to mono as a replacement. At that time, mono was slow, buggy and incomplete. In fact, for a long time mono was missing the asset pipeline tools. According to their official tutorials you had to dig up an old copy of xna and use their asset tools.
chii 7y ago
> per user-minute this is a bad metric, since a million user using the service for all of 1 minute at the same time is not the same as 1 user using it for a million minutes. As a business, i would rather the latter. Time to live is the "proper" metric.

If you look at product changes per user-minute rather than just the percentage of products cancelled, Google APIs are probably more stable than those of any other company.

cube00 7y ago

Too bad the pricing isn't (a la the Maps API recently)

coldtea 7y ago

Not compared to actually developer oriented companies with equally larger user bases, like Microsoft, Amazon, and even Oracle.

panpanna 7y ago
You mean the old Microsoft? The new Microsoft just cancelled UWP. Their latest attempt to scare the hell away all developers.
- pjmlp 7y ago
  That is plain FUD spread by anti-UWP crowd. UWP is alive and well, just go check the BUILD 2019 sessions. Apparently some keep missing the point that all new Windows APIs are based on UWP. There is much so more to UWP that the store. The only thing that are doing is bringing the legacy stacks (Win32, Forms, WPF) and the modern one (WinUI, UWP) under the same umbrella.
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  - panpanna 7y ago
    Remember xna? How about Silverlight? Where is Windows Phone? You see, they don't have the courage to admit defeat. Just let it die and pretend it never existed.
    - coldtea 7y ago
      >How about Silverlight? Where is Windows Phone? Those never got any traction to begin with. If people aren't using it, they wont miss it.
      - panpanna 7y ago
        Actually, they were fairly popular since they were the only viable option on certain platforms. Guess what happened to those platforms?
      - ptx 7y ago
        People certainly did use it and are now suffering the consequences. The admin GUI for one popular CRM system is written in Silverlight – a natural choice since the rest of the system uses Win32, COM, .NET and pretty much every Microsoft technology you can think of from the past 25 years. Their new from-scratch rewrite is based on Python and web standards.
    - pjmlp 7y ago
      Yes, two victims of the WinDev vs DevTools internal wars pushed by Synfosky, with such a result that he ended up resigning. UWP was the fix to WinRT and UAP changes introduced by Sinosfky's team. Again, UWP is not only for Windows Phone, all Windows 10 new APIs are UWP based, there isn't any Win32 version of them. People are able to keep using their legacy skills to write new apps, because Microsoft seldom plays an Apple move, killing any possibility to keep using legacy stacks on modern OSes. If you miss XNA you can go use MonoGame, which Microsoft even advises on MSDN nowadays. And Blazor for Silverlight like use cases.
      - panpanna 7y ago
        Do you realize what you just shrugged of more or less killed Windows phone??? When WP needed 3rd party games to have a chance in the consumer market Microsoft killed their fully functioning and very popular xna platform without explanation. For a while there was no replacement and the standard response from Microsoft was silence. Later Microsoft pointed to mono as a replacement. At that time, mono was slow, buggy and incomplete. In fact, for a long time mono was missing the asset pipeline tools. According to their official tutorials you had to dig up an old copy of xna and use their asset tools.

chii 7y ago

> per user-minute this is a bad metric, since a million user using the service for all of 1 minute at the same time is not the same as 1 user using it for a million minutes. As a business, i would rather the latter. Time to live is the "proper" metric.