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I believe all the problems you have mentioned can be easily solved. Permit adversity scores to weigh in favour of course grades and graduate honors. Legislation

I believe all the problems you have mentioned can be easily solved. Permit adversity scores to weigh in favour of course grades and graduate honors. Legislation can be passed to ensure adversity scores count towards corporate and government employment to prevent any bumps further down the road. Furthermore, adversity scores should also be counted towards recruitment in elite military units, selection for senior military leadership and all significant promotions. The adversity you faced in childhood should give one guaranteed opportunity throughout life. This progressive path ensures harmonious diversity and a perfect union of our states. Adversity is Excellence! Merit is Privilege!

fastball 7y ago
Had me going for a second.
Papirola 7y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrison_Bergeron https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrison_Bergeron
Dylan16807 7y ago
Disingenuous mockery doesn't help. (If you actually believe that's where people are trying to go then I have worse insults for you.)
- lenkite 7y ago
  My mockery reflects the progression of reality in other nations where such policies have been implemented. Your anger and threat of "worse insults" matter little to history. At each stage, the devout proponents of equality will only choose to draw the line further. When students of the 'adversity' quota are unable to get good grades, their grades will be inflated. When they are unable to get jobs, a push will be made for implementing adversity/equality quota in jobs. Case study: India. In India, every community fights to be included in the backward communities category because the benefits are so frighteningly high. Politicians are elected on the basis that they promise to categorise their communities as backward to improve the opportunities for their children. Other politicians threaten to remove some communities from backward status. Being backward gains you a fantastic advantage towards college admissions, reservation in jobs, and several other free benefits. (including lowered prices, etc). Who will not want to leverage this ? The US may very well develop the same problem as a natural evolution of this policy with corresponding natural devolution of merit. Where do you draw the final line on adversity ? If you think this is unrealistic, you are severely mistaken my friend. This simply happens over time. It always starts with "Good Intentions".
  - adventist 7y ago
    Dude, I can totally see this heading that way. It sets up a bad precedent.
  - complexmango 7y ago
    I immigrated to the US from India to flee exactly this slow progressing nightmare. Beyond stunned to see it happening here!
- jakeogh 7y ago
  Couldn't you instead articulate why you disagree?
  - boomlinde 7y ago
    The point is that it's hard to make a constructive answer to a post that doesn't really offer a clear argument of its own.
    - jakeogh 7y ago
      What's unclear?
      - boomlinde 7y ago
        It's much easier to say that the only thing about it that's clear is that the poster is sarcastically enthusiastic about the hypothetical end of some slippery slope. How that conjecture relates to the actual matter at hand, or what the poster really believes about it is left untold. The post a level above it in the thread on the other hand makes a reasoned case for why this might not be a good idea, rooted in the actual matter and addressing it directly. With that in mind, it's even harder to imagine what lenkite thought would add to the discussion. Actually saying that disingenuous mockery doesn't help apparently added to the discussion, though, in that lenkite then responded with a clearly reasoned argument.
        jakeogh 7y ago
        Reductio ad absurdum is useful. Sounds like you agree. Idk why label it a slippery slope, it's pretty cut and dry. SAT scores def do determine who gets to work on your heart.
        boomlinde 7y ago
        > Reductio ad absurdum is useful. Maybe, but in this case I don't think that it was for the reasons that I've previously stated. > Sounds like you agree. What makes it sound like I agree? The only opinions I've divulged are on the quality of the post as an entry to the debate. > Idk why label it a slippery slope, it's pretty cut and dry. Please offer an opinion on whether its use was legitimate and based on a reasonably likely chain of events, but don't tell me that this wasn't using a slippery slope as a rhetorical device. It's not cut and dry, it's hyperbolic and vague, as bitter sarcasm tends to be. > SAT scores def do determine who gets to work on your heart. ... and if that argument had been voiced I might have agreed or disagreed, but it wasn't.
ausjke 7y ago
Perfect solution! Based on what you said you should run for president to solve all the social issues for us, so far we only have 23 progressive candidates. I worry SAT-adversity-score is not enough and we should go all the way, starting from free lunch at Kindergarten all the way to guaranteed college, job and income. To get there more efficiently we could just redistribute all the fortune right away. I actually see Communism ahead of us now, gosh Marx has been so right!

fastball 7y ago

Had me going for a second.

Papirola 7y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrison_Bergeron https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrison_Bergeron

Dylan16807 7y ago

Disingenuous mockery doesn't help. (If you actually believe that's where people are trying to go then I have worse insults for you.)

lenkite 7y ago
My mockery reflects the progression of reality in other nations where such policies have been implemented. Your anger and threat of "worse insults" matter little to history. At each stage, the devout proponents of equality will only choose to draw the line further. When students of the 'adversity' quota are unable to get good grades, their grades will be inflated. When they are unable to get jobs, a push will be made for implementing adversity/equality quota in jobs. Case study: India. In India, every community fights to be included in the backward communities category because the benefits are so frighteningly high. Politicians are elected on the basis that they promise to categorise their communities as backward to improve the opportunities for their children. Other politicians threaten to remove some communities from backward status. Being backward gains you a fantastic advantage towards college admissions, reservation in jobs, and several other free benefits. (including lowered prices, etc). Who will not want to leverage this ? The US may very well develop the same problem as a natural evolution of this policy with corresponding natural devolution of merit. Where do you draw the final line on adversity ? If you think this is unrealistic, you are severely mistaken my friend. This simply happens over time. It always starts with "Good Intentions".
- adventist 7y ago
  Dude, I can totally see this heading that way. It sets up a bad precedent.
- complexmango 7y ago
  I immigrated to the US from India to flee exactly this slow progressing nightmare. Beyond stunned to see it happening here!
jakeogh 7y ago
Couldn't you instead articulate why you disagree?
- boomlinde 7y ago
  The point is that it's hard to make a constructive answer to a post that doesn't really offer a clear argument of its own.
  - jakeogh 7y ago
    What's unclear?
    - boomlinde 7y ago
      It's much easier to say that the only thing about it that's clear is that the poster is sarcastically enthusiastic about the hypothetical end of some slippery slope. How that conjecture relates to the actual matter at hand, or what the poster really believes about it is left untold. The post a level above it in the thread on the other hand makes a reasoned case for why this might not be a good idea, rooted in the actual matter and addressing it directly. With that in mind, it's even harder to imagine what lenkite thought would add to the discussion. Actually saying that disingenuous mockery doesn't help apparently added to the discussion, though, in that lenkite then responded with a clearly reasoned argument.
      - jakeogh 7y ago
        Reductio ad absurdum is useful. Sounds like you agree. Idk why label it a slippery slope, it's pretty cut and dry. SAT scores def do determine who gets to work on your heart.
        boomlinde 7y ago
        > Reductio ad absurdum is useful. Maybe, but in this case I don't think that it was for the reasons that I've previously stated. > Sounds like you agree. What makes it sound like I agree? The only opinions I've divulged are on the quality of the post as an entry to the debate. > Idk why label it a slippery slope, it's pretty cut and dry. Please offer an opinion on whether its use was legitimate and based on a reasonably likely chain of events, but don't tell me that this wasn't using a slippery slope as a rhetorical device. It's not cut and dry, it's hyperbolic and vague, as bitter sarcasm tends to be. > SAT scores def do determine who gets to work on your heart. ... and if that argument had been voiced I might have agreed or disagreed, but it wasn't.

ausjke 7y ago

Perfect solution! Based on what you said you should run for president to solve all the social issues for us, so far we only have 23 progressive candidates. I worry SAT-adversity-score is not enough and we should go all the way, starting from free lunch at Kindergarten all the way to guaranteed college, job and income. To get there more efficiently we could just redistribute all the fortune right away. I actually see Communism ahead of us now, gosh Marx has been so right!