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Won't affect any raspberry pi based systems. the Broadcom chip there isn't Mali based. For that you need a VC4/V3D chip driver, but that's also being develope

Won't affect any raspberry pi based systems. the Broadcom chip there isn't Mali based. For that you need a VC4/V3D chip driver, but that's also being developed. https://anholt.github.io/twivc4/2018/10/30/twiv/ https://anholt.github.io/twivc4/2018/10/30/twiv/

robert_foss 7y ago
Well, the VC4/V3D was maintained until recently. Broadcom is no longer employing anyone to develop it.
megous 7y ago
There are many more '* Pi' boards than just Raspberry Pi. A lot (most) of them have ARM GPU.
- CameronNemo 7y ago
  Frankly I am surprised they have not been hit with a trademark dispute.
  - megous 7y ago
    On what basis? Raspberry Pi is a trademark only in combination of these words, no? https://www.raspberrypi.org/trademark-rules/ https://www.raspberrypi.org/trademark-rules/ And competition is good.
    - simcop2387 7y ago
      Competition is definitely good. But the trademark issue is much more complicated than just the exact words/phrasing. It could be argued that they're using $FRUIT Pi to appear to be associated with the original Raspberry Pi (and I'd say that argument is correct, there's very little other reason to pick that same naming scheme). That doesn't mean that it's certainly a trademark infringement issue either though. In the US at least (no idea about the UK where the RPi is from), there's also a requirement that they're trying to confuse the market at the same time, which isn't so obvious. Trademarks are complicated things mostly created by lawyers who have spent centuries building through loopholes and attempting to fix them. I'd say they serve a real useful purpose and are relatively well balanced against the interests of the populous (once you stop using one, you usually lose it). But they're by no means simple.
- imtringued 7y ago
  Yeah and they were useless because they didn't have GPU drivers. Now the situation has reversed and the Raspberry Pi is now the board that is most dependent on proprietary software.
  - megous 7y ago
    Actually not true, even without GPU support all the ones I have (4 different SoCs - H3,H5,H6,A83T) are noticeably faster than Rpi 2 for things like browsing the web. (H5/H6 a bit unfair, since it's A53 CPU) And desktop use is not the only thing you can do with these boards, and pretty much any of them is better than Rpi on connectivity, which is what matters for other use cases.

robert_foss 7y ago

Well, the VC4/V3D was maintained until recently. Broadcom is no longer employing anyone to develop it.

megous 7y ago

There are many more '* Pi' boards than just Raspberry Pi. A lot (most) of them have ARM GPU.

CameronNemo 7y ago
Frankly I am surprised they have not been hit with a trademark dispute.
- megous 7y ago
  On what basis? Raspberry Pi is a trademark only in combination of these words, no? https://www.raspberrypi.org/trademark-rules/ https://www.raspberrypi.org/trademark-rules/ And competition is good.
  - simcop2387 7y ago
    Competition is definitely good. But the trademark issue is much more complicated than just the exact words/phrasing. It could be argued that they're using $FRUIT Pi to appear to be associated with the original Raspberry Pi (and I'd say that argument is correct, there's very little other reason to pick that same naming scheme). That doesn't mean that it's certainly a trademark infringement issue either though. In the US at least (no idea about the UK where the RPi is from), there's also a requirement that they're trying to confuse the market at the same time, which isn't so obvious. Trademarks are complicated things mostly created by lawyers who have spent centuries building through loopholes and attempting to fix them. I'd say they serve a real useful purpose and are relatively well balanced against the interests of the populous (once you stop using one, you usually lose it). But they're by no means simple.
imtringued 7y ago
Yeah and they were useless because they didn't have GPU drivers. Now the situation has reversed and the Raspberry Pi is now the board that is most dependent on proprietary software.
- megous 7y ago
  Actually not true, even without GPU support all the ones I have (4 different SoCs - H3,H5,H6,A83T) are noticeably faster than Rpi 2 for things like browsing the web. (H5/H6 a bit unfair, since it's A53 CPU) And desktop use is not the only thing you can do with these boards, and pretty much any of them is better than Rpi on connectivity, which is what matters for other use cases.