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Anecdotally I know people who were running a small business and moved to Canada partially because how much of their revenue was going towards insurance. I think

Anecdotally I know people who were running a small business and moved to Canada partially because how much of their revenue was going towards insurance. I think they pay more in taxes now but it still is a lot less than they were paying in insurance.

Scoundreller 7y ago
It’s not as good as it used to be, but Canada lets business owners do a lot of income splitting with family members across different share classes. Particularly if you have children >18. And if they’re under 18, just make them directors and pay them $100 for attending each monthly board meeting.
- andechs 7y ago
  > But Canada lets business owners do a lot of income splitting with family members across different share classes. Particularly if you have children >18. Thankfully, they're finally closing the loophole. Many doctors with private practices were reducing their tax burdens significantly by stating that their 14 year children were "medical receptionists". It's ridiculous to grant further tax avoidance loopholes to the already wealthy.
theturtletalks 7y ago
And big corporations are getting a discount on health insurance due to the volume of employees. Tell me why I can't find 100 more relatively healthy people and have our own "insurance" where we pitch into a account and do payouts. Oh yeah, the high barrier of entry these insuracne companies created and we would have to pay the Obamacare penalty for "not having insurance."
- speeder390 7y ago
  Yes fresh faced 20 somethings that all look, act the same who have this weird problem almost sick obsession with (EQ). Being a nice person who is a hard worker no longer good enough in today's New economy. I am over 40,unemployable because I needed to take some time off. Self studying front and back end development, having an accounting degree means nothing because I am an introvert and act nervous etc.. So don't interview well
  - gamblor956 7y ago
    If you have an accounting degree, you should have no problem finding a job...in accounting...where you have the education and experience.
- elipsey 7y ago
  That tax penalty no longer exists. I'd also like to point out that when it did exist, it was less than one month of my current un-subsidized insurance premium.
- johnpowell 7y ago
  You might want a bigger pool. I'm 40 and was healthy until October when I was diagnosed with head and neck cancer. That was treated and two months after my last radiation/chemo treatment they did another PET scan only to find that the cancer has spread to my liver. I just finished up radiation for my liver a few weeks ago and on Thursday start immunotherapy. As far as I know immunotherapy is a ongoing thing for the rest of my life and it isn't cheap. I stopped counting when my medical bills hit $750,000. It is probably double that by now. Again, normal healthy 40 year old guy that rode his bike everywhere who woke up one day with a sore throat that ended up never going away.
  - asveikau 7y ago
    Good luck sir. And to anyone here who is reading in similar circumstances.
  - maxxxxx 7y ago
    The correct size for an insurance pool is “whole country”. Nothing else makes sense.
    - mjevans 7y ago
      It would be better to stop calling it "insurance". It's a medical costs pool.
taivare 7y ago
Canada has been taking Automotive sector jobs from U.S. workers. Detroit has seen a real cost savings by not covering health care for their Canadian workers.
- drocer88 7y ago
  Walmart was big on socialized medicine, too. Getting the government to subsidize their customers is a big win for them.

Scoundreller 7y ago

It’s not as good as it used to be, but Canada lets business owners do a lot of income splitting with family members across different share classes. Particularly if you have children >18. And if they’re under 18, just make them directors and pay them $100 for attending each monthly board meeting.

andechs 7y ago
> But Canada lets business owners do a lot of income splitting with family members across different share classes. Particularly if you have children >18. Thankfully, they're finally closing the loophole. Many doctors with private practices were reducing their tax burdens significantly by stating that their 14 year children were "medical receptionists". It's ridiculous to grant further tax avoidance loopholes to the already wealthy.

theturtletalks 7y ago

And big corporations are getting a discount on health insurance due to the volume of employees. Tell me why I can't find 100 more relatively healthy people and have our own "insurance" where we pitch into a account and do payouts. Oh yeah, the high barrier of entry these insuracne companies created and we would have to pay the Obamacare penalty for "not having insurance."

speeder390 7y ago
Yes fresh faced 20 somethings that all look, act the same who have this weird problem almost sick obsession with (EQ). Being a nice person who is a hard worker no longer good enough in today's New economy. I am over 40,unemployable because I needed to take some time off. Self studying front and back end development, having an accounting degree means nothing because I am an introvert and act nervous etc.. So don't interview well
- gamblor956 7y ago
  If you have an accounting degree, you should have no problem finding a job...in accounting...where you have the education and experience.
elipsey 7y ago
That tax penalty no longer exists. I'd also like to point out that when it did exist, it was less than one month of my current un-subsidized insurance premium.
johnpowell 7y ago
You might want a bigger pool. I'm 40 and was healthy until October when I was diagnosed with head and neck cancer. That was treated and two months after my last radiation/chemo treatment they did another PET scan only to find that the cancer has spread to my liver. I just finished up radiation for my liver a few weeks ago and on Thursday start immunotherapy. As far as I know immunotherapy is a ongoing thing for the rest of my life and it isn't cheap. I stopped counting when my medical bills hit $750,000. It is probably double that by now. Again, normal healthy 40 year old guy that rode his bike everywhere who woke up one day with a sore throat that ended up never going away.
- asveikau 7y ago
  Good luck sir. And to anyone here who is reading in similar circumstances.
- maxxxxx 7y ago
  The correct size for an insurance pool is “whole country”. Nothing else makes sense.
  - mjevans 7y ago
    It would be better to stop calling it "insurance". It's a medical costs pool.

taivare 7y ago

Canada has been taking Automotive sector jobs from U.S. workers. Detroit has seen a real cost savings by not covering health care for their Canadian workers.

drocer88 7y ago
Walmart was big on socialized medicine, too. Getting the government to subsidize their customers is a big win for them.