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So, we made the polyfill horribly hideous in order to make it run everywhere JavaScript can run, and yet, it doesn't work on IE10-. Maybe it's not a good way to

by kozak 7y ago

So, we made the polyfill horribly hideous in order to make it run everywhere JavaScript can run, and yet, it doesn't work on IE10-. Maybe it's not a good way to set globalThis after all :)

folkrav 7y ago
IE>11 is 0.35% of global usage according to caniuse, and even being generous and pushing it to 0.5%, it's horribly low. Maybe we just shouldn't support IE>11 anymore.
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- TheCoelacanth 7y ago
  That's still much, much higher usage than jsvu[1] which they gave as the justification for needing this polyfill. 0.35% of Internet users is ~14 million people. jsvu has been on npm for about a year and has never had more than 1000 downloads per week, so it has under 50k users, more than two orders of magnitude less than IE<11. [1] https://www.npmjs.com/package/jsvu https://www.npmjs.com/package/jsvu
  - mathias 7y ago
    Author of the referenced article here. The article includes a working polyfill that includes old IE support, so I’m not sure what you’re complaining about. Also, saying “jsvu is the justification for the polyfill” doesn’t make much sense. jsvu is just how I happen to test in various standalone JavaScript engines. There are other, non-jsvu ways of getting such binaries, e.g. compiling one yourself, and there are JS engine binaries that jsvu doesn’t provide (Rhino, Ringo, Nashorn). jsvu usage does not correspond to anything you seem to be talking about, and comparing its download count with IE10 usage is one of the more extreme apples-to-oranges comparison I’ve seen. ️
- chii 7y ago
  also, enterprises tend to have old tech stacks, forcing some business apps to continue to support IE10 (not even IE11 yet!)
  - folkrav 7y ago
    I'm perfectly aware. Still doesn't really justify supporting a platform that has been out of support for 2.5 years now, with the security implications this has.
mathias 7y ago
The article includes a working polyfill that includes old IE support.

by kozak 7y ago

So, we made the polyfill horribly hideous in order to make it run everywhere JavaScript can run, and yet, it doesn't work on IE10-. Maybe it's not a good way to set globalThis after all :)

folkrav 7y ago

IE>11 is 0.35% of global usage according to caniuse, and even being generous and pushing it to 0.5%, it's horribly low. Maybe we just shouldn't support IE>11 anymore.

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TheCoelacanth 7y ago
That's still much, much higher usage than jsvu[1] which they gave as the justification for needing this polyfill. 0.35% of Internet users is ~14 million people. jsvu has been on npm for about a year and has never had more than 1000 downloads per week, so it has under 50k users, more than two orders of magnitude less than IE<11. [1] https://www.npmjs.com/package/jsvu https://www.npmjs.com/package/jsvu
- mathias 7y ago
  Author of the referenced article here. The article includes a working polyfill that includes old IE support, so I’m not sure what you’re complaining about. Also, saying “jsvu is the justification for the polyfill” doesn’t make much sense. jsvu is just how I happen to test in various standalone JavaScript engines. There are other, non-jsvu ways of getting such binaries, e.g. compiling one yourself, and there are JS engine binaries that jsvu doesn’t provide (Rhino, Ringo, Nashorn). jsvu usage does not correspond to anything you seem to be talking about, and comparing its download count with IE10 usage is one of the more extreme apples-to-oranges comparison I’ve seen. ️
chii 7y ago
also, enterprises tend to have old tech stacks, forcing some business apps to continue to support IE10 (not even IE11 yet!)
- folkrav 7y ago
  I'm perfectly aware. Still doesn't really justify supporting a platform that has been out of support for 2.5 years now, with the security implications this has.

mathias 7y ago

The article includes a working polyfill that includes old IE support.