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Ive almost lost hope at this point; while I will continue to support green movements and live closer to green, I don’t hold any faith that things will change.

Ive almost lost hope at this point; while I will continue to support green movements and live closer to green, I don’t hold any faith that things will change. If they do, great. Otherwise, prepare your children for a world where their children may be less intelligent due to higher concentrations of Co2. Water will be expensive. People will wear masks everywhere and only rich people can afford houses with completely pure air. I truly hope it doesn’t come to this, but my fear is that when pollution gets to a certain point, those in charge will basically say “fuck it” and let things run their course.

fifnir 7y ago
>prepare your children If you're stressed about the environment you shouldn't be having children
- neuronic 7y ago
  Yes, but maybe his children will contribute in massively positive ways that end up negating their negative climate impact. Every child is also a chance.
  - fifnir 7y ago
    And maybe I'll win the lottery and escape poverty, but playing it is irresponsible while I'm poor
  - IshKebab 7y ago
    Maybe but it's extremely unlikely. Think about the amount of damage a single person does to the environment. It would take a truly insane effort for someone to have a beneficial effect on it (assuming the live in civilisation).
blisterpeanuts 7y ago
Don't you think technology is helping? Hybrid and EV cars are becoming common and probably in 10 years, the average vehicle on the city roads will be an EV. Solar energy is coming down in price and residential adoption in the U.S. is booming. The average person today believes in recycling and cutting emissions. Battery technology is advancing. Also worth pointing out that in North America at least, vast reforestation has taken place. In a few years, we will be a lot closer to a zero emissions civilization, though probably we'll never actually get to zero but at least we'll reduce our impact substantially and then it will be a matter of waiting for ecosystems to move back into balance. There's no reason why for example the polar ice caps can't re-freeze, and there's even evidence of some of that happening in places. Don't give up hope.

fifnir 7y ago

>prepare your children If you're stressed about the environment you shouldn't be having children

neuronic 7y ago
Yes, but maybe his children will contribute in massively positive ways that end up negating their negative climate impact. Every child is also a chance.
- fifnir 7y ago
  And maybe I'll win the lottery and escape poverty, but playing it is irresponsible while I'm poor
- IshKebab 7y ago
  Maybe but it's extremely unlikely. Think about the amount of damage a single person does to the environment. It would take a truly insane effort for someone to have a beneficial effect on it (assuming the live in civilisation).

blisterpeanuts 7y ago

Don't you think technology is helping? Hybrid and EV cars are becoming common and probably in 10 years, the average vehicle on the city roads will be an EV. Solar energy is coming down in price and residential adoption in the U.S. is booming. The average person today believes in recycling and cutting emissions. Battery technology is advancing. Also worth pointing out that in North America at least, vast reforestation has taken place. In a few years, we will be a lot closer to a zero emissions civilization, though probably we'll never actually get to zero but at least we'll reduce our impact substantially and then it will be a matter of waiting for ecosystems to move back into balance. There's no reason why for example the polar ice caps can't re-freeze, and there's even evidence of some of that happening in places. Don't give up hope.