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Adobe tells users of old Premiere versions that they are not allowed to use them

127 points by anonymfus 7y ago

moltar 7y ago
I got this notice re photoshop that I pay for monthly and I was utterly confused. But it was a good reminder to finally cancel the subscription and switch to another software for a one time fee.
tinodotim 7y ago
Isn't it about unlicensed content / licenses by third parties that ran out? The last sentence in that message is pretty telling, it's about claims by third parties and not Adobe. Seems reasonable that they don't offer those versions as a download anymore (I guess you could question if they should offer those old versions without that unlicensed content/tools now. But I mean, you opted in to use their Software as a Service products. There are great alternatives for (nearly) all of their tools these days.)
- MagicPropmaker 7y ago
  This person is a Twitter drama queen who traffics in falsehoods. Adobe isn't doing anything "evil."
akersten 7y ago
So Adobe has a licensing issue with Dolby or an "other third party" as they put it - and end users who paid for the software as recently as 3 months ago are supposed to switch versions in the middle of a project, or be "subject to infringement claims"(!?) in some IP proxy war? It seems like this is Adobe's problem. I don't know if throwing their customers under the bus was a sad attempt at fomenting pressure on Dolby to capitulate, but it's really scummy and a bad look for Adobe.
- dogma1138 7y ago
  They should release a patch to remove that feature or add a replacement then, but I guess forcing people to upgrade sounded better to the finance folks.
- Maxious 7y ago
  Dolby sued Adobe and as part of the settlement or bad blood the licence was terminated https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/03/14/a_dolby_sues_adobe_for_dodging_cloud_license_fees/ https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/03/14/a_dolby_sues_adobe_... https://dockets.justia.com/docket/california/candce/3:2018cv01553/323769 https://dockets.justia.com/docket/california/candce/3:2018cv...
dang 7y ago
Related and recent: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19863481 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19863481
goshx 7y ago
In case someone is looking for a free alternative, check Davinci Resolve out from Black Magic.
- prawn 7y ago
  I second this, though I came in cold rather than from Premiere. Loads of tutorials on YouTube to get you up to speed. The few things withheld in the paid version most people can live without.
- the_solenoid 7y ago
  Came here to say this, really good software, picked it up for a recent project and was pretty productive pretty fast
MagicPropmaker 7y ago
Read this person's twitter history and decide for yourself if she's a credible person or not.
- CrowFly 7y ago
  Exactly! You need to consider the source.
- userbinator 7y ago
  This is just one user providing a factual report.
- naikrovek 7y ago
  She sounds level-headed to me. You, not as much.
MagicPropmaker 7y ago
Here's a more rational explanation from someone with a better history: https://dazwallace.wordpress.com/2019/05/08/the-great-adobe-purge-of-19/ https://dazwallace.wordpress.com/2019/05/08/the-great-adobe-... This is because of patent / licensing claims by other companies, like Dolby. Know the whole story before taking out your pitchforks.
- CamperBob2 7y ago
  And this is my problem how?
  - deleted 7y ago
    [deleted]
- acdha 7y ago
  You’ve posted 3 messages which are basically the same attack on the poster because you apparently don’t like her style. This isn’t helpful and you haven’t explained why her point is invalid — quite ironic given your attacks on her for being a “drama queen” or lacking credibility when all we see is a valid point.
- boapnuaput 7y ago
  Are you using a computer on Shabbat? [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19879110 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19879110
- iwasakabukiman 7y ago
  I don’t think the original Twitter post was irrational at all. This just provides a big of speculation as to the cause. It’s probably right, still speculation. And it doesn’t matter who is at fault to the end consumer. If I was working on a project and Adobe suddenly told me that I had to upgrade because the version of Premiere I was using was “illegal” then I would be pissed off. Luckily I’m in between projects at work so this won’t hurt me too much.
bitL 7y ago
How prescient was to buy CS6 in the last days of its availability...
bdz 7y ago
I remember when they took down the CS2 activation servers and they made everything available for download with a universal serial number. It was available for a long time, for years. Lot of people downloaded those versions even tho it was technically still illegal. But it was "free" and straight from Adobe. Abandonware if we can say that. Still have my copy too, made a backup just in case. And the page was up until last week and they nuked that too. And yeah all the CS2 apps are still working fine in 2019 under Windows 10 even tho they are 14 years old.
- userbinator 7y ago
  Adobe apps were never difficult to pirate at all, the theory is that they wanted more users who would eventually buy the products in a commercial setting. Amusingly enough, archive.org has archived those downloads too.
nine_k 7y ago
Hmm. Weren't things like "support", "guarantees", "reliability", etc the original premise to use proprietary stuff? I wonder if comparable technologies exist that are open, or at least free to use.
charliebrownau 7y ago
What a great idea moving away from buy one, download and install over to online cloud, pay yearly model Hows online sub cloud system working out for you Still going to double down and use adobe software still ?

127 points by anonymfus 7y ago

I got this notice re photoshop that I pay for monthly and I was utterly confused. But it was a good reminder to finally cancel the subscription and switch to another software for a one time fee.

tinodotim 7y ago

Isn't it about unlicensed content / licenses by third parties that ran out? The last sentence in that message is pretty telling, it's about claims by third parties and not Adobe. Seems reasonable that they don't offer those versions as a download anymore (I guess you could question if they should offer those old versions without that unlicensed content/tools now. But I mean, you opted in to use their Software as a Service products. There are great alternatives for (nearly) all of their tools these days.)

MagicPropmaker 7y ago
This person is a Twitter drama queen who traffics in falsehoods. Adobe isn't doing anything "evil."

akersten 7y ago

So Adobe has a licensing issue with Dolby or an "other third party" as they put it - and end users who paid for the software as recently as 3 months ago are supposed to switch versions in the middle of a project, or be "subject to infringement claims"(!?) in some IP proxy war? It seems like this is Adobe's problem. I don't know if throwing their customers under the bus was a sad attempt at fomenting pressure on Dolby to capitulate, but it's really scummy and a bad look for Adobe.

dogma1138 7y ago
They should release a patch to remove that feature or add a replacement then, but I guess forcing people to upgrade sounded better to the finance folks.
Maxious 7y ago
Dolby sued Adobe and as part of the settlement or bad blood the licence was terminated https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/03/14/a_dolby_sues_adobe_for_dodging_cloud_license_fees/ https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/03/14/a_dolby_sues_adobe_... https://dockets.justia.com/docket/california/candce/3:2018cv01553/323769 https://dockets.justia.com/docket/california/candce/3:2018cv...

dang 7y ago

Related and recent: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19863481 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19863481

goshx 7y ago

In case someone is looking for a free alternative, check Davinci Resolve out from Black Magic.

prawn 7y ago
I second this, though I came in cold rather than from Premiere. Loads of tutorials on YouTube to get you up to speed. The few things withheld in the paid version most people can live without.
the_solenoid 7y ago
Came here to say this, really good software, picked it up for a recent project and was pretty productive pretty fast

MagicPropmaker 7y ago

Read this person's twitter history and decide for yourself if she's a credible person or not.

CrowFly 7y ago
Exactly! You need to consider the source.
userbinator 7y ago
This is just one user providing a factual report.
naikrovek 7y ago
She sounds level-headed to me. You, not as much.

MagicPropmaker 7y ago

Here's a more rational explanation from someone with a better history: https://dazwallace.wordpress.com/2019/05/08/the-great-adobe-purge-of-19/ https://dazwallace.wordpress.com/2019/05/08/the-great-adobe-... This is because of patent / licensing claims by other companies, like Dolby. Know the whole story before taking out your pitchforks.

CamperBob2 7y ago
And this is my problem how?
- deleted 7y ago
  [deleted]
acdha 7y ago
You’ve posted 3 messages which are basically the same attack on the poster because you apparently don’t like her style. This isn’t helpful and you haven’t explained why her point is invalid — quite ironic given your attacks on her for being a “drama queen” or lacking credibility when all we see is a valid point.
boapnuaput 7y ago
Are you using a computer on Shabbat? [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19879110 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19879110
iwasakabukiman 7y ago
I don’t think the original Twitter post was irrational at all. This just provides a big of speculation as to the cause. It’s probably right, still speculation. And it doesn’t matter who is at fault to the end consumer. If I was working on a project and Adobe suddenly told me that I had to upgrade because the version of Premiere I was using was “illegal” then I would be pissed off. Luckily I’m in between projects at work so this won’t hurt me too much.

bitL 7y ago

How prescient was to buy CS6 in the last days of its availability...

bdz 7y ago

I remember when they took down the CS2 activation servers and they made everything available for download with a universal serial number. It was available for a long time, for years. Lot of people downloaded those versions even tho it was technically still illegal. But it was "free" and straight from Adobe. Abandonware if we can say that. Still have my copy too, made a backup just in case. And the page was up until last week and they nuked that too. And yeah all the CS2 apps are still working fine in 2019 under Windows 10 even tho they are 14 years old.

userbinator 7y ago
Adobe apps were never difficult to pirate at all, the theory is that they wanted more users who would eventually buy the products in a commercial setting. Amusingly enough, archive.org has archived those downloads too.

nine_k 7y ago

Hmm. Weren't things like "support", "guarantees", "reliability", etc the original premise to use proprietary stuff? I wonder if comparable technologies exist that are open, or at least free to use.

charliebrownau 7y ago

What a great idea moving away from buy one, download and install over to online cloud, pay yearly model Hows online sub cloud system working out for you Still going to double down and use adobe software still ?