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Macs considered obsolete after 7 years https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201624 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201624
by somerandomness 7y ago
Macs considered obsolete after 7 years https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201624 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201624
- giancarlostoro 7y agoVintage you mean. Had a coworker point out that Apple calls really old Apple products vintage, it can't be called old or obsolete for whatever reason.
- wnevets 7y agoYeah that sounds like something apple would do, they love their orwellian language.
- coldtea 7y agoQuoting from the Apple page linked: “Obsolete products are those that were discontinued more than 7 years ago.“
- wrycoder 7y agoQuoting from the Apple page linked that you responded to: “Obsolete products are those that were discontinued more than 7 years ago.“
- nreilly 7y agoVintage and obsolete are two different categories. Vintage = 5-7 years after last manufacture vs 7+ for obsolete. Service is generally not available for vintage or obsolete products, however some places like California have service for vintage products available. Further details on Apple’s website: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201624 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201624
- kalleboo 7y agoOne important difference to note. Google's policy is 6.5 years after "first device on the platform is released". Apple's policy is after last manufactured. The Apple policy also only explicitly applies to hardware (repair parts), although software often falls not far behind (maybe supported for a year or two longer)
- rb808 7y agoYeah this. I bought a Nexus 6p on sale, just over a year after it was released. This meant it was less than two years before it was no longer supported. The battery was replaced twice and was junk anyway. Good riddance.
- noisy_boy 7y agoMy Nexus 6p worked pretty well except had to do a battery replacement once after which the battery life remained excellent. After nearly 3 years of usage, dropped it and shattered the glass. Tried several places for a replacement screen but the feedback everywhere was "parts no longer available". The phone works perfectly otherwise and I had no intention of getting a new one soon. Finally gave up and bought a Oneplus 6. This kind of forced phasing out of devices is really unfortunate.
- freedomben 7y agoThis is eerily similar to my experience. I absolutely love my OnePlus 6. 8 GB of RAM and 256 GB storage is phenomenal, and double the resources of the pixel 3
- mehrdadn 7y agoRandom question about OnePlus since I'm seeing it in a Linux conversation... do you happen to use Termux? If so do you happen to know how to run a daemon (e.g. SSH) without getting choked by BgDetect every few minutes?
- freedomben 7y agoYeah I do run termux, but I don't run an SSH daemon anymore (mostly because of issues like that). I just plug in the USB cable and run `adb shell` whenever I need a shell on the phone. Performance for file transfers is also way faster and more reliable using `adb pull /sdcard/DCIM ./` than with `scp -r phone:/sdcard/DCIM/ ./` I use termux mostly just run my own ruby scripts or SSH to cloud servers and stuff. Mind if I ask where the conversation is? (if it's public). That sounds like something I'd enjoy :-)
- ilikehurdles 7y agoThose vintage macbook pros are still getting OS and software updates. Hardly "software-defined garbage". I have a 2012 retina that's still chugging along perfectly. Battery life is down from when I bought it, sure, but there's still enough juice for a few hours of unplugged work.
- TomVDB 7y agoThe 2012 retina was released mid-2012, and the 7 year rule starts when it was last produced. So it hasn't reached obsolete/vintage status yet. (I used the same MacBook, replaced the battery a couple of months ago, and have no plans to replace it anytime soon.)
- golfer 7y agoMacbook Pros cost far more than Chromebooks. MBPs are 4x to 10x the price. They shouldn't be compared apples to apples.
- golfer 7y agoGetting downvoted here, would love to know why.
- bigtunacan 7y agoI did not downvote you nor do I know why you are downvoted and I do understand your frustration. That said, it is against the Hacker News guidelines to comment about voting/down-voting and generally only results in further down-votes. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html "Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading."
- DavidAdams 7y agoPeople don't like puns?
- micmil 7y agoBecause your post was utterly irrelevant in every possible way. A lot of things a lot more expensive than Macs get EOL on a much more regular basis. Have fun running brand new Android on a seven year old tablet.
- dredmorbius 7y agoEoL Macs can be converted to Linux, for what it's worth.
- josteink 7y agoExcept if they have a T2 chip and you don’t want to chug along external hdd/storage for your main OS.
- beenBoutIT 7y agoAll EOL Chromebooks can easily be converted to Linux.
- josteink 7y agoI was replying to someone saying the same about MacBooks, but that’s clearly no longer the case.
- freedomben 7y agoThis is mostly true, but you'll never get as good an experience with Linux on a Mac as on a Lenovo or Dell. There's just too much proprietary stuff. Even little things like the fan sometimes don't work
- dredmorbius 7y agoYMMV. https://www.cultofmac.com/162823/linux-creator-linus-torvalds-i-love-my-macbook-air/ https://www.cultofmac.com/162823/linux-creator-linus-torvald... Apple doesn't always make things easy, but they do have a highly-uniform component set, which can simplify configuration so long as all elements are supported, and senior Linux devs running kit is an incentive to solve hardware issues. I'm not implying either that all devices are supported (I don't know which are/aren't, though I've had success on Apple kit myself), or that Linus still uses an Apple laptop (he seems to have moved on). But some well-established Linux users have turned to those devices and ben satisfied.
- pfortuny 7y agoWell, for Apple support. I’ve installed OpenBSD on a 2007 MbPro and works like a charm. (I put an ssd like 8 years ago though).
- caffed 7y agoThis is why I will eventually switch to Linux as my primary work/personal OS. Unfortunately, my Mac Pro 5,1 refuses to die!
- jostmey 7y agoHa! I remember buying a mac with a disk drive right after the Apple started offering macs with solid state drives. After upgrading the OS, it mac became super sluggish--Apple didn't support the computer for more than a few years.
- jethro_tell 7y agoNo it was supported but it was obsolete which is two different things. But also why I don't have mac hardware any longer. One of my favorite machines is still my SamsunNC10, tiny (for it's day) 32 bit machine that runs a *nix. For what I do, which involves writing software, managing servers and browsing the web, it's great, though At some point, it will not have os support any longer for 32 bit.