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Well I was never warned over 3 years. I never accepted payment away from Upwork, i maybe couple of times got off site communication on client request, but nobod

Well I was never warned over 3 years. I never accepted payment away from Upwork, i maybe couple of times got off site communication on client request, but nobody gave me infraction for that. I think that should come before the ban. I figure there is two possible reasons they banned me. Facial recognition software decided that my profile pic (when I was younger and clean shaven) is not sufficiently similar to my pic taken during video call. Other reason might be that they think my services are not being needed, as I had interviews without hire... except those were ones where I did not want to be hired, it was not like client rejected me. I simply wanted to pick best jobs, while still having time to concentrate on my long running contract with full time employer. In a hindsight, I probably should have set my profile to private in order not to get any invites. And go public only when I want side-job. I did not know they count that metric.

deanclatworthy 7y ago
Or maybe this is a big misunderstanding, and your blog post title is clickbait.
- LyndsySimon 7y ago
  I see nothing wrong with that. The man's livelihood was destroyed, without a provided justification or an apparent means of appeal. The "court of public opinion" is basically his only shot to get it back, and that requires views. Clickbait gets views.
  - dang 7y ago
    That's not a bad argument, but it isn't a good fit for HN. Clickbait is against the site guidelines, because its strengths—attracting quick attention and generating indignation—are actually weaknesses for intellectual curiosity, the main value of this site. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - ilaksh 7y ago
      Its not clickbait. They gave him no explanation for the ban. They required a video call. It is reasonable to speculate that his appearance could have been a factor.
      - dang 7y ago
        Ok, but the title doesn't speculate; it makes the claim outright. People naturally feel rage at the image of someone being banned so arbitrarily and trivially. Generating rage with evidenceless claims is definitely clickbait.
rightbyte 7y ago
Maybe clients you turned down gave you 1 stars or what ever. Do you think it was chat bots? These automated fraud detection system are a nightmare. I did some jobs at elance as a student. You could feel how the platform was on the side of the work buyers. I stopped trying making money there after a dispute with a SEO dude over payment for some text where he wanted me to do another one before I got payed ... luckely the money (30 USD) was in escrow for me and I actually got it from elance, but it's a buyers market.
- gnufreex 7y ago
  They can't give me one star if I did not start contract with them. I need to accept contract to be able to affect JSS
  - NullPrefix 7y ago
    Maybe the platform thinks you accepted those contracts off the platform.

deanclatworthy 7y ago

Or maybe this is a big misunderstanding, and your blog post title is clickbait.

LyndsySimon 7y ago
I see nothing wrong with that. The man's livelihood was destroyed, without a provided justification or an apparent means of appeal. The "court of public opinion" is basically his only shot to get it back, and that requires views. Clickbait gets views.
- dang 7y ago
  That's not a bad argument, but it isn't a good fit for HN. Clickbait is against the site guidelines, because its strengths—attracting quick attention and generating indignation—are actually weaknesses for intellectual curiosity, the main value of this site. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - ilaksh 7y ago
    Its not clickbait. They gave him no explanation for the ban. They required a video call. It is reasonable to speculate that his appearance could have been a factor.
    - dang 7y ago
      Ok, but the title doesn't speculate; it makes the claim outright. People naturally feel rage at the image of someone being banned so arbitrarily and trivially. Generating rage with evidenceless claims is definitely clickbait.

rightbyte 7y ago

Maybe clients you turned down gave you 1 stars or what ever. Do you think it was chat bots? These automated fraud detection system are a nightmare. I did some jobs at elance as a student. You could feel how the platform was on the side of the work buyers. I stopped trying making money there after a dispute with a SEO dude over payment for some text where he wanted me to do another one before I got payed ... luckely the money (30 USD) was in escrow for me and I actually got it from elance, but it's a buyers market.

gnufreex 7y ago
They can't give me one star if I did not start contract with them. I need to accept contract to be able to affect JSS
- NullPrefix 7y ago
  Maybe the platform thinks you accepted those contracts off the platform.