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I love your description of "the dive". I am happy to see I am not the only one experiencing these recurring devouring interests that bring me much much deeper t

by Iv 7y ago

I love your description of "the dive". I am happy to see I am not the only one experiencing these recurring devouring interests that bring me much much deeper than I would like to go until I am starting to fork a github repo at 2am wondering "what the hell am I doing?" And that article is tangentially related to a recurring interest of mine (shared editable 3d universe in which you can code collaboratively). If you happened to have an article comparing the merit of several server architectures/algorithms for collaborative text edition, I think many things can be related. I am now reading about CRDT (What the hell am I doing?) and that's something I may use to edit a scene graph collaboratively!

juretriglav 7y ago
Hey thanks for that. :) Diving is super fun but also exceptionally exhausting. But often it's impossible to 'load' a complex problem in your head if you don't dive in for hours. Would be nice if there was a less stressful way. In terms of editable 3d universes (whoah!), have you considered chucking together Three.js's JSON scene description (https://github.com/mrdoob/three.js/wiki/JSON-Object-Scene-format-4 https://github.com/mrdoob/three.js/wiki/JSON-Object-Scene-fo...) with https://github.com/automerge/automerge https://github.com/automerge/automerge, a CRDT for JSON? What could possibly go wrong?!
- ilaksh 7y ago
  ShareJS has a JSON editor example https://github.com/josephg/ShareJS/tree/master/examples/public https://github.com/josephg/ShareJS/tree/master/examples/publ...
  - Iv 7y ago
    Thanks! But a big part of my obsession is to be able to modify a 3d universe from within. I won't claim it is practical or a good idea in any way, just an obsessive thing I want to try.
    - ilaksh 7y ago
      Right I understood that. I was replying to the other guy who suggested putting the scene in a JSON Three.js thing. So the idea was that the thing I suggested was just a possibly easy way to get a collaborative JSON editor into your program.
- Iv 7y ago
  Diving usually happens to me when I resume coffee consumption after going dry for a few days :-) Right now I am staying in the python world, that I know well, and appreciate its introspection capabilities. I play with OpenGL and PyQt to display in 3d the code of objects loaded in memory. It was surprisingly easy to do. When I first tried, 15 years ago, that was more of a mess. Now I mentioned CRDT but I was not thinking on raw text but using nodes of the scene graph as characters. I like the idea of insertions and deletions that keep invisible tombstones available.
improv32 7y ago
You've probably heard of it already, but if not you should check out the game Cube/Sauerbraten. It's an open source quake-style fps game, with its level editor integrated right into the game itself, and you can edit levels collaboratively with other players at the same time.

by Iv 7y ago

juretriglav 7y ago

Hey thanks for that. :) Diving is super fun but also exceptionally exhausting. But often it's impossible to 'load' a complex problem in your head if you don't dive in for hours. Would be nice if there was a less stressful way. In terms of editable 3d universes (whoah!), have you considered chucking together Three.js's JSON scene description (https://github.com/mrdoob/three.js/wiki/JSON-Object-Scene-format-4 https://github.com/mrdoob/three.js/wiki/JSON-Object-Scene-fo...) with https://github.com/automerge/automerge https://github.com/automerge/automerge, a CRDT for JSON? What could possibly go wrong?!

ilaksh 7y ago
ShareJS has a JSON editor example https://github.com/josephg/ShareJS/tree/master/examples/public https://github.com/josephg/ShareJS/tree/master/examples/publ...
- Iv 7y ago
  Thanks! But a big part of my obsession is to be able to modify a 3d universe from within. I won't claim it is practical or a good idea in any way, just an obsessive thing I want to try.
  - ilaksh 7y ago
    Right I understood that. I was replying to the other guy who suggested putting the scene in a JSON Three.js thing. So the idea was that the thing I suggested was just a possibly easy way to get a collaborative JSON editor into your program.
Iv 7y ago
Diving usually happens to me when I resume coffee consumption after going dry for a few days :-) Right now I am staying in the python world, that I know well, and appreciate its introspection capabilities. I play with OpenGL and PyQt to display in 3d the code of objects loaded in memory. It was surprisingly easy to do. When I first tried, 15 years ago, that was more of a mess. Now I mentioned CRDT but I was not thinking on raw text but using nodes of the scene graph as characters. I like the idea of insertions and deletions that keep invisible tombstones available.

improv32 7y ago

You've probably heard of it already, but if not you should check out the game Cube/Sauerbraten. It's an open source quake-style fps game, with its level editor integrated right into the game itself, and you can edit levels collaboratively with other players at the same time.