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But Chromium still has most, if not all, the Google integration. There are forks that try to strip Google from it, but it is a mistake to assume that Chromium

But Chromium still has most, if not all, the Google integration. There are forks that try to strip Google from it, but it is a mistake to assume that Chromium is somehow better than Chrome.

pbhjpbhj 8y ago
Firefox by default sends all your searches to Google, and uses Google search suggestions (so sends all typed in text to Google). What other integrations, specifically please, does Chromium have with Google? Aside: do Google serve the Firefox Newtab adverts, perhaps that "feature" was added for the extra money Firefox are getting from Google?
- Zekio 8y ago
  The Newtab adverts are not served by Google IIRC and they are only matched with you data locally in your browser, you get a lot of them from Mozilla and locally on your machine they get targeted so you aren't tracked online (If my memory of the article on it is correct)
- mikro2nd 8y ago
  Is this still true of the default search engine is set to something other than Google? What are the relevant config keys?
- arghwhat 8y ago
  Many things. 1. It uses Google DNS internally, bypassing system DNS. 2. First-run analytics to Google, new tab page analytics to Google. 3. Various built-in google services that phone home: Google Host Detector, Google URL Tracker, Google Cloud Messaging, Google Hotwording, Google Safe Browsing, WiveDine DRM, Google AutoFill, etc. 4. Update checks for all these components (the browser does not have update, but the rest does). 5. Countless accesses to Google, such as geo-location to find nearest Google server, ping probes for connectivity, etc. For a list of domains that are accessed by Chromium, see this regex used by the ungoogled-chromium project: https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium/blob/30969fddff02ed9cd70fc5d5d94c5fe01e86bcb5/domain_regex.list https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium/blob/30969fddf... More info at https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium/tree/30969fddff02ed9cd70fc5d5d94c5fe01e86bcb5 https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium/tree/30969fddf.... I see no problem with neither Chrome nor Firefox defaulting to Google search and suggestions, as that is easily configurable for normal users. All of the above, however, is not.
  - pbhjpbhj 8y ago
    Cool, thanks. Do you happen to know if Brave has these issues too?
    - nessup 8y ago
      It doesn't - like ungoogled-chromium, Brave have replaced references to any Google endpoints with placeholders that don't resolve to anything.
- Liquid_Fire 8y ago
  > and uses Google search suggestions (so sends all typed in text to Google) This is not true. Firefox explicitly asks you the first time you start typing a search in the location bar whether to allow search suggestions. It is opt-in. Firefox also allows you to keep the location/search bar separate so that you can have search suggestions without sending every URL you type to Google.

But Chromium still has most, if not all, the Google integration. There are forks that try to strip Google from it, but it is a mistake to assume that Chromium is somehow better than Chrome.

pbhjpbhj 8y ago

Firefox by default sends all your searches to Google, and uses Google search suggestions (so sends all typed in text to Google). What other integrations, specifically please, does Chromium have with Google? Aside: do Google serve the Firefox Newtab adverts, perhaps that "feature" was added for the extra money Firefox are getting from Google?

Zekio 8y ago
The Newtab adverts are not served by Google IIRC and they are only matched with you data locally in your browser, you get a lot of them from Mozilla and locally on your machine they get targeted so you aren't tracked online (If my memory of the article on it is correct)
mikro2nd 8y ago
Is this still true of the default search engine is set to something other than Google? What are the relevant config keys?
arghwhat 8y ago
Many things. 1. It uses Google DNS internally, bypassing system DNS. 2. First-run analytics to Google, new tab page analytics to Google. 3. Various built-in google services that phone home: Google Host Detector, Google URL Tracker, Google Cloud Messaging, Google Hotwording, Google Safe Browsing, WiveDine DRM, Google AutoFill, etc. 4. Update checks for all these components (the browser does not have update, but the rest does). 5. Countless accesses to Google, such as geo-location to find nearest Google server, ping probes for connectivity, etc. For a list of domains that are accessed by Chromium, see this regex used by the ungoogled-chromium project: https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium/blob/30969fddff02ed9cd70fc5d5d94c5fe01e86bcb5/domain_regex.list https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium/blob/30969fddf... More info at https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium/tree/30969fddff02ed9cd70fc5d5d94c5fe01e86bcb5 https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium/tree/30969fddf.... I see no problem with neither Chrome nor Firefox defaulting to Google search and suggestions, as that is easily configurable for normal users. All of the above, however, is not.
- pbhjpbhj 8y ago
  Cool, thanks. Do you happen to know if Brave has these issues too?
  - nessup 8y ago
    It doesn't - like ungoogled-chromium, Brave have replaced references to any Google endpoints with placeholders that don't resolve to anything.
Liquid_Fire 8y ago
> and uses Google search suggestions (so sends all typed in text to Google) This is not true. Firefox explicitly asks you the first time you start typing a search in the location bar whether to allow search suggestions. It is opt-in. Firefox also allows you to keep the location/search bar separate so that you can have search suggestions without sending every URL you type to Google.