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Reading Why We Sleep has made me somewhat skeptical about people claiming to not need sleep. A quote from the book: > We have, however, discovered a very rare
by joshvm 7y ago
Reading Why We Sleep has made me somewhat skeptical about people claiming to not need sleep. A quote from the book:
> We have, however, discovered a very rare collection of individuals who appear to be able to survive on six hours of sleep, and show minimal impairment—a sleepless elite, as it were. Give them hours and hours of sleep opportunity in the laboratory, with no alarms or wake-up calls, and still they naturally sleep this short amount and no more. Part of the explanation appears to lie in their genetics, specifically a sub-variant of a gene called BHLHE41.III
> Scientists are now trying to understand what this gene does, and how it confers resilience to such little sleep.
Having learned this, I imagine that some readers now believe that they are one of these individuals. That is very, very unlikely. The gene is remarkably rare, with but a soupçon of individuals in the world estimated to carry this anomaly. To impress this fact further, I quote one of my research colleagues, Dr. Thomas Roth at the Henry Ford Hospital in Detroit, who once said, “The number of people who can survive on five hours of sleep or less without any impairment, expressed as a percent of the population, and rounded to a whole number, is zero.”
The gene described here is also called DEC2: https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2018/03/410051/scientists-discover-how-gene-mutation-reduces-need-sleep https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2018/03/410051/scientists-discover... - this is the same research group as the New Yorker article (Fu et al), but four years along.
- looeee 7y ago> expressed as a percent of the population, and rounded to a whole number, is zero.” That just means 'less than one in two hundred'. Which is not that rare.
- airza 7y agono, because the original clause was talking about the number of people. the joke was that it was identical to the percentage. Extremely circuitous, but meaningful!
- tialaramex 7y agoAlso I would have no confidence in estimates of the population that don't involve either a systematic search, or a symptom we're unavoidably certain we'd spot. Humans who are 10 feet tall would stand out. Humans with XXX were unheard of until they found one by accident and then it turns out they weren't that rare but we'd never gone out of our way to look. (Having the wrong number of copies of most chromosomes causes something obvious and often fatal, but humans necessarily have 1 or 2 copies of X anyway and cope so 3 isn't that astonishing)
- solarkraft 7y ago> The number of people who can survive on five hours of sleep or less without any impairment, expressed as a percent of the population, and rounded to a whole number, is zero. What a weird, pointless and almost information-less way to say < 0.5%.
- HNLurker2 7y ago>Part of the explanation appears to lie in their genetics, specifically a sub-variant of a gene called BHLHE41.III How does one find out if he has the genes?