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archive.is is a very important tool in online extremism research and you've taken money from far-right extremists, your explanation for why it's inaccessible se

archive.is is a very important tool in online extremism research and you've taken money from far-right extremists, your explanation for why it's inaccessible seems incomplete. This is probably where I get banned from Hn but it has to be said - to posture as if you care about end users while in the same breath taking money from extremists and turning over personal identifiable information to far-right outlets like DailyStormer, is disingenuous at best and I can think of other ways to describe it which are less charitable. You also host and protect 8chan. https://twitter.com/ncweaver/status/1124091916520497153 https://twitter.com/ncweaver/status/1124091916520497153 https://twitter.com/klarajk/status/1122625367490146304 https://twitter.com/klarajk/status/1122625367490146304 https://twitter.com/Riverseeker/status/1122612031234945024 https://twitter.com/Riverseeker/status/1122612031234945024 https://twitter.com/slpng_giants/status/1123592717341200384 https://twitter.com/slpng_giants/status/1123592717341200384 https://twitter.com/NathanBLawrence/status/1056286809741819905 https://twitter.com/NathanBLawrence/status/10562868097418199... https://twitter.com/NJDemocrat/status/897147112273608705 https://twitter.com/NJDemocrat/status/897147112273608705 https://twitter.com/InvestMib/status/1123308004873515015 https://twitter.com/InvestMib/status/1123308004873515015 https://twitter.com/jwz/status/1124415034610860033 https://twitter.com/jwz/status/1124415034610860033

tdhoot 7y ago
I think the tone of this comment as "courageous" is especially humorous coming from a throwaway account.
- HNthrow22 7y ago
  I'm far from courageous, in fact I'm scared because these groups regularly DoX those who draw attention to this pressing issue: https://thenextweb.com/opinion/2018/07/17/the-daily-callers-doxxing-of-sleeping-giants-was-a-dick-move/ https://thenextweb.com/opinion/2018/07/17/the-daily-callers-... http://www.sfweekly.com/news/daily-caller-doxxes-the-s-f-guy-who-led-the-anti-breitbart-campaign/ http://www.sfweekly.com/news/daily-caller-doxxes-the-s-f-guy... Journalist like Robert Evans are courageous: https://www.bellingcat.com/news/americas/2019/04/28/ignore-the-poway-synagogue-shooters-manifesto-pay-attention-to-8chans-pol-board/ https://www.bellingcat.com/news/americas/2019/04/28/ignore-t... Researchers like Whitney Phillips are courageous https://www.wired.com/story/existential-crisis-plaguing-online-extremism-researchers/ https://www.wired.com/story/existential-crisis-plaguing-onli... I'm just disgusted.
- thinkingemote 7y ago
  Anonymity online. If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear.
syshum 7y ago
This is amusing, They Banned the DailyStormer which I why I will never support them. While I disagree 100% with the DailyStormer it is not up to cloudflare to decide who can and can not speak, who can and can not access the internet. The concept of Free Speech is the most important right we have as humanity, while I may not agree with some peoples words I will fight for their right to say those words And do not even come at me with "well they are private company" we impose all kinds of regulations on private companies when it comes to basic human rights like free speech and Free Association for example private companies can not refuse service based on race, sex, age, etc. yet you WANT them to censor content, censor speech. You want them to apply your left authoritarian world view to legal speech, and yes everything you have cited is LEGAL SPEECH in the USA. If there are actual threats, True Threats as defined in US law, then the police should be involved and the people arrested. If there is defamation or other illegal speech then the courts should be involved It should NOT be the position of private companies to regulate speech online Platform Access Is A Civil Right. https://humanevents.com/2019/05/03/platform-access-is-a-civil-right/ https://humanevents.com/2019/05/03/platform-access-is-a-civi...
- scarface74 7y ago
  race, sex, age, etc. Where does daily stormer fall in the “etc.” part?
  - syshum 7y ago
    Never said it did, etc was in reference to other protected classes in the list which vary by state. Many states, including California, have political ideology has a protected class as well. IMO companies run a foul of that when they start banning people for subjective ideology based reasons like "hate speech" which is not illegal in the US, and is every much based in political ideology to make the determination as to what is "hate".
- fapjacks 7y ago
  I think you're being downvoted because of the bit about regulation. At least, that is what I choose to believe, because imagine our state of affairs if you are being downvoted because of your comments about the idea of free speech.
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tdhoot 7y ago

I think the tone of this comment as "courageous" is especially humorous coming from a throwaway account.

HNthrow22 7y ago
I'm far from courageous, in fact I'm scared because these groups regularly DoX those who draw attention to this pressing issue: https://thenextweb.com/opinion/2018/07/17/the-daily-callers-doxxing-of-sleeping-giants-was-a-dick-move/ https://thenextweb.com/opinion/2018/07/17/the-daily-callers-... http://www.sfweekly.com/news/daily-caller-doxxes-the-s-f-guy-who-led-the-anti-breitbart-campaign/ http://www.sfweekly.com/news/daily-caller-doxxes-the-s-f-guy... Journalist like Robert Evans are courageous: https://www.bellingcat.com/news/americas/2019/04/28/ignore-the-poway-synagogue-shooters-manifesto-pay-attention-to-8chans-pol-board/ https://www.bellingcat.com/news/americas/2019/04/28/ignore-t... Researchers like Whitney Phillips are courageous https://www.wired.com/story/existential-crisis-plaguing-online-extremism-researchers/ https://www.wired.com/story/existential-crisis-plaguing-onli... I'm just disgusted.
thinkingemote 7y ago
Anonymity online. If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear.

syshum 7y ago

This is amusing, They Banned the DailyStormer which I why I will never support them. While I disagree 100% with the DailyStormer it is not up to cloudflare to decide who can and can not speak, who can and can not access the internet. The concept of Free Speech is the most important right we have as humanity, while I may not agree with some peoples words I will fight for their right to say those words And do not even come at me with "well they are private company" we impose all kinds of regulations on private companies when it comes to basic human rights like free speech and Free Association for example private companies can not refuse service based on race, sex, age, etc. yet you WANT them to censor content, censor speech. You want them to apply your left authoritarian world view to legal speech, and yes everything you have cited is LEGAL SPEECH in the USA. If there are actual threats, True Threats as defined in US law, then the police should be involved and the people arrested. If there is defamation or other illegal speech then the courts should be involved It should NOT be the position of private companies to regulate speech online Platform Access Is A Civil Right. https://humanevents.com/2019/05/03/platform-access-is-a-civil-right/ https://humanevents.com/2019/05/03/platform-access-is-a-civi...

scarface74 7y ago
race, sex, age, etc. Where does daily stormer fall in the “etc.” part?
- syshum 7y ago
  Never said it did, etc was in reference to other protected classes in the list which vary by state. Many states, including California, have political ideology has a protected class as well. IMO companies run a foul of that when they start banning people for subjective ideology based reasons like "hate speech" which is not illegal in the US, and is every much based in political ideology to make the determination as to what is "hate".
fapjacks 7y ago
I think you're being downvoted because of the bit about regulation. At least, that is what I choose to believe, because imagine our state of affairs if you are being downvoted because of your comments about the idea of free speech.

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