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> There's also a sense that nothing is really new anymore. Whatever someone throws at me, I can fit it somewhere in my worldview. I find this hard to believe.

• lordnacho 7y ago
  dmt? Not sure what that's short for. While travelling does show me stuff I haven't seen, that doesn't mean it significantly alters what I thought about the place I'm visiting. Or the world in the larger sense. Sometimes there's a slight surprise in how I expected things to be vs how they are, but those tend to be degrees of difference rather than requiring a large revision. Art, it's such a huge field. I try to get a context when I see something, but I haven't spent my time learning a lot about art history. But generally I'm not surprised when I see some work of art. One thing to think about is whether being able to fit everything nicely is itself a symptom of a problem. Hard to know.
  • mping 7y ago
    DMT is a psychedelics drug.
    • lordnacho 7y ago
      I've tried a few drugs too, I really don't see what it added to my life. Especially in exchange for the risk, who knows what could have happened to me? It's one of those things you try because people around you are trying. But basically, I felt nothing from smoking joints or mushrooms. I had one fun experience once in Amsterdam with some hash cookies, but could I live without it? Yeah. I feel much the same about alcohol. That at least has a common cultural set of expectations, but at the same time, I didn't think it really changed much about what I thought about the world.
      • pmoriarty 7y ago
        "I felt nothing from smoking joints or mushrooms." It's quite common not to have any effect from the first few times one tries smoking marijuana. Eventually, the body seems to "learn" how to appreciate the high. As for mushrooms, if you felt nothing from them I wonder if: 1 - your dose was too low, or 2 - the mushrooms you had weren't psychoactive. Believe me, if you've tried a high dose of a real psychedelic drug, it would be a very intense experience (assuming you remembered it, as some people do have amnesia from too high a dose of psychedelics, possibly because the experience is too intense for their conscious mind to assimilate).
        • lordnacho 7y ago
          "I felt nothing" is perhaps the wrong expression. One time I had my vision strobing (as in I could turn my head and the picture in my mind would be like several images rather than a video) and ended walking around a music festival camping ground for hours. What I meant was the experience did not really add much to how I thought about the world. I didn't have particularly meaningful conversations with anyone during that time. It didn't add perspective, which is kinda what I thought would happen.
          • katbyte 7y ago
            You didn't do enough/were in the right setting.
            • pmoriarty 7y ago
              I agree. It sounds like lordnacho got a weak dose. It should be kept in mind, however, is that people's sensitivity to various drugs varies. So what might be a weak dose to one person might be a strong dose to another.
          • ElFitz 7y ago
            I wouldn't consider a music festival the right setting for introspection
          • hkai 7y ago
  • Chris_Chambers 7y ago
    How old are you?
• malvosenior 7y ago
  No the OP but I'm no longer surprised by art, traveling or drugs. At some point you see the same broad patterns repeated over and over. I can't get excited about another speakeasy, temple or museum. I can enjoy them but they don't feel "new". Art is the same way, something meant to be "shocking"? Doesn't feel that way to me, just feels cliche. Abstract, realism... I've seen it all before. It doesn't mean I don't appreciate it, again it just doesn't feel new. Drugs are probably the first thing on the list that get old fast. Even things I really love, like eating authentic food from different countries, while highly enjoyable, isn't shocking or new the way it was when I first had exposure to different food in general.
  • namanyayg 7y ago
    Would a strong psychedelic experience not take you to a different realm of thought? I'm curious why you say it gets old fast, most psychedelics aren't habit forming.
    • malvosenior 7y ago
      In my experience you can only visit that realm so many times before it ceases to offer new insights.
      • namanyayg 7y ago
        Fair, how many times has that been for you? I'll make sure to stay well under :)
  • selestify 7y ago
    Does life get really boring for you, then?
    • malvosenior 7y ago
      Not at all. I'd say one of the reasons these things don't seem new and exciting is because as you age, you acquire things that feel much more important than new experiences for the sake of new experiences. Having a family for instance will give you near continuous new experiences at an intensity level you basically can't match outside of that situation. It's also interesting and exciting to continue to get better at things I love (programming, hobbies...).
• scottLobster 7y ago
  Heh, I'm only 31 and I feel like there's nothing really new. Is there stuff I don't know/haven't experienced? Sure. But it's been a few years since the last time I encountered something truly mind-blowing or perspective-changing. Maybe I'll try mushrooms some day. It's just a function of the internet really, most things that once upon a time seemed like exotic, alternate paths have been de-mystified. For example, after seeing how kung-fu holds up against MMA and BJJ, I no longer have the perception of kung-fu masters as great, master fighters. Similarly, turns out the classical Spartans arguably weren't nearly as elite as their common reputation. They were just one of the few Greek factions that bothered to regularly train at all, and that often put them over the top. The information required to formulate both points with any support is only possible because of the internet, where in previous years a historical lay-person like myself would likely have to spend months in the library in dedicated historical studies to arrive at the same conclusions. The more I look at the world, the more I think the Taoists got it right. "The Great Path is simple and direct yet people love to take the side-routes"
  • TheTruth1234 7y ago
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNdoVrQnxyo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNdoVrQnxyo MMA is a joke.
    • avinium 7y ago
      I have no idea what you’re trying to say with this video - which is Floyd Mayweather (a boxer) clowning Tenshin Nasukawa (a Kickboxer) in a boxing match. Nothing to do with MMA (or for that matter, Kung fu).
      • TheTruth1234 7y ago
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenshin_Nasukawa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenshin_Nasukawa MMA. And Mayweather is a well-known Kung-Fu grandmaster. If you didn't know this, now you know.
      • TheTruth1234 7y ago
• hobofan 7y ago
  > I find this hard to believe. Are you not surprised by traveling? Art? dmt experiences? Those are the lightweights, largely because they are also manufactured experiences: - Traveling: Whoa, in that other country, people are speaking a different language, have different customs, and have different values? Who could have known! - Art: Sure, art can evoke some feelings, but rarely is it earthshattering - Drugs: Okay, that I don't know - and don't care for The bigger things are other life events, like change in relationships, change in worklife, moving places, friends and family getting ill or worse. Sure, those will never be easy, but the more you go through them the better you know that "this too shall pass" and how to deal with it.