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I agree 100%. CS programs are packed now because they pay is so high vs other majors. The problem is that there are only so many positions the economy can accom

I agree 100%. CS programs are packed now because they pay is so high vs other majors. The problem is that there are only so many positions the economy can accommodate and many of the students going through the system now will never get a job in the field. The outstanding graduates from the prestigious programs will always get a great job but everyone else will have to fight for the jobs that are left. Look at India. The schools are turning out a bunch of CS/Engineers but the economy can not accommodate the number that are graduating so many of them are getting jobs they could have gotten without all the education. The same thing is happening here. The real winners will be the ones that use CS as a stepping stone to creating a business, therefore, creating your own need for the degree. If I had to get a degree now I would pick a combination CS and business degree with a minor in a field that's in the humanities and start to figure out how I'm going to put it to use. A CS degree alone will lead to a job that does not need it and could have been gotten with any college degree. It's really supply and demand in effect.

derangedHorse 8y ago
We definitely do not meet the demand for programmers in the market. Big software companies don't only look at the number of CS grads since the real need is for talent. Not all of these graduates have the skill required to work in top tier companies, but I'd argue that not all jobs need top tier talent, and that there's plenty of jobs out there that are still looking for the average joe programmer.
- WheelsAtLarge 8y ago
  Look at this page: https://www.bls.gov/ooh/computer-and-information-technology/mobile/computer-programmers.htm https://www.bls.gov/ooh/computer-and-information-technology/... Programming jobs are expected to fall. But I bet people seeking and training for jobs will continue to increase. Also, you emphasize my point. Joe programmers don't need a full CS degree. From experience, I know a 2-year associate degree is enough.
NotSammyHagar 8y ago
There are so many dev jobs in the big coastal cities. Seattle must have 20k openings between just the fangs, 1000+ little companies that each want 10 more devs (including mine). And in big cities like Dallas or Houston there is just a lot of demand. 35k grads in 2016 in the entire us, and Seattle could probably about absorb them all if you add in the east side. there's never been a boom like today for lawyers - its just not comparable.

derangedHorse 8y ago

We definitely do not meet the demand for programmers in the market. Big software companies don't only look at the number of CS grads since the real need is for talent. Not all of these graduates have the skill required to work in top tier companies, but I'd argue that not all jobs need top tier talent, and that there's plenty of jobs out there that are still looking for the average joe programmer.

WheelsAtLarge 8y ago
Look at this page: https://www.bls.gov/ooh/computer-and-information-technology/mobile/computer-programmers.htm https://www.bls.gov/ooh/computer-and-information-technology/... Programming jobs are expected to fall. But I bet people seeking and training for jobs will continue to increase. Also, you emphasize my point. Joe programmers don't need a full CS degree. From experience, I know a 2-year associate degree is enough.

NotSammyHagar 8y ago

There are so many dev jobs in the big coastal cities. Seattle must have 20k openings between just the fangs, 1000+ little companies that each want 10 more devs (including mine). And in big cities like Dallas or Houston there is just a lot of demand. 35k grads in 2016 in the entire us, and Seattle could probably about absorb them all if you add in the east side. there's never been a boom like today for lawyers - its just not comparable.