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> Eric Schmidt was the anti-privacy leader who dismissed privacy concerns. Well, he did understand how to turn the customers data into a product. He is one of
by MichaelMoser123 8y ago
> Eric Schmidt was the anti-privacy leader who dismissed privacy concerns.
Well, he did understand how to turn the customers data into a product. He is one of the key persons who formed the whole data economy thing; that's quite a big deal - he formulated the way of making money for the 21st century.
Once upon a time money was in producing stuff, now stuff and people are so much varied so that the main problem is that of pushing adds. This is the way that this age got the tool to keep it going...
Of course the system has its bugs that can be called 'features'
- Barrin92 8y ago>Once upon a time money was in producing stuff, now stuff and people are so much varied so that the main problem is that of pushing adds No, this is a very misleading comparison. Schmidt (and others) have found a way to commodify your personal information and how to transfer ownership of your data, and as such wealth, from you to Google. They're not the 21st equivalent of Henry Ford, they haven't unleashed new modes of production that suddenly unleash growth and drive down prices of material goods and services, they've figured out a way to turn attention into a mechanism to redistribute money upwards.
- MichaelMoser123 8y agopushing adds is a service that means it is a 'product' that advertisers are buying. Of course google is also buying our data: its the price for using free products such as search, android and gmail; google is then reselling this data; this takes place either by reselling it directly or by using it as part of their service .
- drb91 8y agoTerms of service should not imply consent to a transaction: that is inherently a dishonest and exploitative method of running a business. Also, the idea of paying to use a free service is an oxymoron. Google is not and has never been free, it is ad supported, and it has ruined the internet by normalizing this behavior.
- saiya-jin 8y agowell the whole 'product' is a net loss for humanity in long term and made the whole internet worse for everybody probably forever, so no tears shed for this a-hole
- TheOtherHobbes 8y agoIf a fast food chain recorded all customer conversations at its tables and then mined that information for profit, most people would consider that unconscionable - even if the conversations were anonymised. Similarly most people wouldn't be too happy about a physical newspaper or a TV that tracked their eyeballs as they read/watched it - at least not without an opt-out option. And yet this is very close to what Google does, albeit hidden behind the distancing effect of a search engine and a web browser. Should we really be grateful?
- mercer 8y agoI don't like Google. Possibly I'd prefer to live in a world without a Google. That said, your comparison strikes me as rather reductive. Google Search, Maps, Chrome, YouTube, Android, and so on, are all things that have had a measurable impact on my life, and quite a bit of it positive. I'd like to think these things could've happened without all the bad stuff that funds it, but at the very least I can't just dismiss all of it.
- cwillu 8y agoIf they let you eat there for free, I suspect you'd find that significant chunk of the population would consider it to be an acceptable trade.
- ionised 8y ago> Well, he did understand how to turn the customers data into a product. He is one of the key persons who formed the whole data economy thing; that's quite a big deal - he formulated the way of making money for the 21st century. You keep repeating this as if it is somehow axiomatically good. The surveillance capitalism business model is not one we should be proud of in any way.
- MichaelMoser123 8y agoI don't like it either (don't work for them) I was just trying to gain an understanding on what is going on.