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That seems like a great kickstarter you should make then. To avoid the need to go through FDA approval, don't label it for humans. Label it for animals. Label

That seems like a great kickstarter you should make then. To avoid the need to go through FDA approval, don't label it for humans. Label it for animals. Label it for lab testing. Buy sensors from reputable names, plug them to a chip that support uPython, and make it hackable. Even better, you may be able to recruit an engineer from one of the original providers to secure the pumping system, just for the sheer human aspect of it. Geeks are often moral driven persons. Soon you'll have an affordable, community driven device. There will be problems, and some people will probably pay it with their life thought. But how many lifes can be made better ?

krageon 7y ago
I imagine that for a lot of people "oh well a few people died, but it's for the greater good!" is in fact not enough justification to help them sleep at night.
- sametmax 7y ago
  I get that, that's why you don't label it for humans, and you make it hackable. Just like there are people ready to die on Mars just for the sake of making the next step for humanity, there is out there a community of people ready to take the risk with their body to solve a problem that plagued their community for so long. Who knows, they may actually want it, and not be able to do it because of the lack of opportunity. Open the door, let people volunteer. If you get a response, the ones coming will know what they are in for, and as long as you are respecting them, their action, and the community, you can be proud of what you do. Why do you think Pasteur tested the vaccine on himself ? The desire to help, being part of something important, is a deep human drive.
  - JohnFen 7y ago
    > Why do you think Pasteur tested the vaccine on himself ? Because he had enough of a sense of ethics to want to avoid performing a risky test on others, possibly killing them.
    - sametmax 7y ago
      That's my point. They may be people like him for a new type of insuline pump. We can't, as citizen, hope to compete against pharmaceutical companies. That doesn't mean we can't do anything.
      - JohnFen 7y ago
        > They may be people like him for a new type of insuline pump. I'm sure there are -- and there is nothing stopping those people from doing the same today. The FDA cannot tell you what you can and can't do to your own body.
  - opo 7y ago
    >...Why do you think Pasteur tested the vaccine on himself ? What vaccine did Pasteur test on himself? The first human subject for the rabies vaccine was a boy who had been bit by a rabid dog. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Pasteur https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Pasteur

krageon 7y ago

I imagine that for a lot of people "oh well a few people died, but it's for the greater good!" is in fact not enough justification to help them sleep at night.

sametmax 7y ago
I get that, that's why you don't label it for humans, and you make it hackable. Just like there are people ready to die on Mars just for the sake of making the next step for humanity, there is out there a community of people ready to take the risk with their body to solve a problem that plagued their community for so long. Who knows, they may actually want it, and not be able to do it because of the lack of opportunity. Open the door, let people volunteer. If you get a response, the ones coming will know what they are in for, and as long as you are respecting them, their action, and the community, you can be proud of what you do. Why do you think Pasteur tested the vaccine on himself ? The desire to help, being part of something important, is a deep human drive.
- JohnFen 7y ago
  > Why do you think Pasteur tested the vaccine on himself ? Because he had enough of a sense of ethics to want to avoid performing a risky test on others, possibly killing them.
  - sametmax 7y ago
    That's my point. They may be people like him for a new type of insuline pump. We can't, as citizen, hope to compete against pharmaceutical companies. That doesn't mean we can't do anything.
    - JohnFen 7y ago
      > They may be people like him for a new type of insuline pump. I'm sure there are -- and there is nothing stopping those people from doing the same today. The FDA cannot tell you what you can and can't do to your own body.
- opo 7y ago
  >...Why do you think Pasteur tested the vaccine on himself ? What vaccine did Pasteur test on himself? The first human subject for the rabies vaccine was a boy who had been bit by a rabid dog. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Pasteur https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Pasteur