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Google Will Eat Itself (2005)
- julienreszka 8y agoThat's funny
- swiley 8y agoIt looks like this ended pretty quickly. http://www.gwei.org/pages/google/google_letter_02.html http://www.gwei.org/pages/google/google_letter_02.html
- burtonator 8y agothey say they own $450k worth of google stock?
- jrockway 8y agoHey, almost as much as any one of the 100,000 employees! I am sure the process of self-eating is nearly complete!
- jacobush 8y ago"202.345.117 Years until GWEI fully owns Google."
- myroon5 8y agoTheir listed share price is outdated by years. I'd be skeptical
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- todd3834 8y ago> Amount of USD: 405.413,19 That’s kind of a weird way to format it. So I double checked the math. > Google Shares owned by GWEI: 819 > Current Google Share Price : 495.01 USD The current share price is actually $1,287.58 So they own $1,054,528.02 of Google stock?
- cobookman 8y agoThere was a stock split in 2014. Not sure if there's share splits before then. So > 1mil. Goog has grown 957% since may 2005. So their 405k is now worth ~4mil.
- chillacy 8y agoEuropean-style formatting.
- MattBearman 8y agoIIRC most of mainland Europe formats numbers this way ('.' for thousand separator ',' for decimal separator) Strangely there doesn't seem to be a 'falsehoods programmers believe about numbers' post, but if there were, this would definitely feature :)
- oliwarner 8y agoMost? A very large chunk use spaces or thin-spaces as thousand separators. By GDP, at least, periods are probably in the minority.
- metafunctor 8y agoGermany, Italy, Spain, Netherlands, Belgium at least appear to use a period as the thousands separator. Quite of lot of population and GDP there already.
- 317070 8y agoAt least Belgium officially uses spaces as thousands seperator [0] [0] http://ond.vvkso-ict.com/vvksomainnieuw/brochure/Vouwblad%20BIN-normen%20Zwart.pdf http://ond.vvkso-ict.com/vvksomainnieuw/brochure/Vouwblad%20...
- swiley 8y agoThe spaces is an iso standard. Most Europeans I’ve talked to use “,” for the radix and “.” For the separator. Personally I really like spaces since they’re unambiguous.
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- rattlesnakedave 8y agoProbably don’t visit this site if you have epilepsy. Discussion from reddit (~7 years ago): https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/htidn/til_of_gwei_a_plan_to_make_google_eat_itself_it/ https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/htidn/til_of... And from hn circa 2008: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=273337 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=273337 Definitely a hoax (but a really cool one, indeed) by the art collective Uber morgen.
- Dylan16807 8y agoProbably? I'll counter with very unprobably. It's mostly a blur effect and the amount it shifts is very small. Edit: I hope whoever downvoted has actual evidence of danger. Also the danger range is generally around 12-20Hz and that background is at 4.
- LukaD 8y agoI don't care if it's dangerous. It's annoying and makes me feel uneasy. Had to block it with ublock.
- dang 8y agoAnd from 2011: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2628328 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2628328
- JohnFen 8y agoI was wondering what you were referring to (later comments clarified this). Once again, I'm happy that I don't allow scripting to run in my browser by default -- I never saw the effect you are talking about.
- Dylan16807 8y agoJust to be clear, there's no scripting involved, it's a plain image file set as the page's background.
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- tyingq 8y agoThis page seems unwise: http://www.gwei.org/pages/google/check.html http://www.gwei.org/pages/google/check.html A check with enough info for G to probably figure out which advertiser it is? Or maybe they have some pool of accounts? Edit: Ahh, nevermind. They mention a pool of accounts, some already disabled: http://www.gwei.org/pages/google/google_letter.html http://www.gwei.org/pages/google/google_letter.html
- Cthulhu_ 8y agoI'm confident Google doesn't have any rules against this practice; after all, if they serve legitimate ads on legitimate sites and don't do any fraud, Google still earns money themselves off of the ads. edit: another commenter pointed out they got a letter and a disabled account due to click fraud already.
- z3t4 8y agoThere was a time where you could actually make money by having text ads. But then the whole ecosystem got diluted by fake impressions and clicks. One easy solution would be to require people to solve "captcha", for example when logging in, before being served a text ad.
- birracerveza 8y agoI'm sorry, I don't understand this comment. You want to solve captcha in order to be served text ads? Why would you want to do that?
- z3t4 8y agoThink from the publisher side of view. You want to have an easy way to monetize content, and ads used to work well, but now you get very little or nothing from ads because most impressions and clicks are made by bots. So instead of adding a "paywall" to see the content, you add a "captcha" and the users will be able to see the content for free along with some unobtrusive text ads. I think it's already proven that users rather solve a "captcha" then use their credit card to gain access.
- asaph 8y ago> Think from the publisher side of view. Any publisher with any sense at all knows that annoying users will simply drive them away. Then there will be no audience at all, except perhaps bots which can solve captchas.
- 0xCMP 8y agoI mean, that's what a pay wall is isn't it? think of all things people do on HN to go around those. Solving a captcha is probably worse because it's not annoying enough to go around so you actually just have to do it, but now it's more likely a legitimate user.
- ianai 8y agoBut only one captcha per day per site, max, please. Seems a good trade off for me. Especially if it unlocks solely text ads.
- 0898 8y agoAside: Google Will Eat Itself seems to be a pun on the English band Pop Will Eat Itself, who I can recommend.
- jhbadger 8y agoI suspect both names are a pun on the old Marxist slogan "Capitalism will eat itself".
- julienreszka 8y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros
- varjag 8y ago"202.345.117 Years until GWEI fully owns Google." In less than a galactic year!
- sara12312 8y agoWorld's biggest cat Even you can't believe it's size See her video https://howto105.blogspot.com/2019/04/worlds-biggest-cat.html https://howto105.blogspot.com/2019/04/worlds-biggest-cat.htm... See the video a dog shopping and lots of other acts like humans http://bit.ly/2DCpo9I http://bit.ly/2DCpo9I Fish walking with legs like humans See the video on link below http://bit.ly/2XRGyYD http://bit.ly/2XRGyYD This couple is different Girls are both twins and boys are also twin brothers see how they look in video http://bit.ly/2VwoZQd http://bit.ly/2VwoZQd A cute dog is dancing in video Just watch this video and try to control your laugh http://bit.ly/2ZK1XVs http://bit.ly/2ZK1XVs
- darepublic 8y agoThis reminds me of zeno's paradox, even though you continue to buy google stock its a smaller and smaller fraction so even if you buy google to infinity you still never own it
- nix0n 8y agoYou don't need 100% though, just 51%
- EGreg 8y agoZeno’s paradox only seems like one before you learn differential Calculus. That’s because dx is going to zero, true, but as dt goes to zero. We have figured out that this converges to an actual number, in a system that is totally consistent and makes sense. x0 + sum of all the dx converges to x1 just as t0 + the sum of all the dt converges to t1. And that’s the exact time when Achilles catches up to the tortoise. Zeno’s paradox ignores that dt is going to zero, and always acts like the sum of all the dt is infinity, thus “Achilles will never reach the tortoise” is wrong. Simple!
- Mugwort 8y agoI don't know about eating itself (possible) but Google might one day not need human employees at all or be very close to 100% AI. Maybe Sergey and Larry will keep their jobs because of seniority. The rest of us are in trouble.
- tehlike 8y agoMeh. Will never happen.