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> My complaint is these features are abused by nasty people who you end up having to work with I mean, not being able to edit or remove messages, by one's own
by zapzupnz 8y ago
> My complaint is these features are abused by nasty people who you end up having to work with
I mean, not being able to edit or remove messages, by one's own and those of others in the case of a moderator, can be just as susceptible to abuse.
Abusive messages not being able to be removed, potentially and needlessly staying in front of hundreds or thousands of users' eyes is one issue I can come up with off the top of my head. Especially true for IRC clients that provide image previews for posted spam links if those links contain disturbing content (and no, it's not a reasonable response to expect people to turn those off; people can enjoy media the way they want, not just the way you deem fit).
> When I can't trust software running on my own machines to accurately tell me what someone said yesterday that's unacceptable
Just as well Discord, Slack, and others put a little "(edited)" annotation next to edited messages. Plus, one can only edit one's own messages; moderators cannot edit other peoples' messages as they can on forums.
> I don't think there's any bigger work around than having to screenshot an app every time certain people send you a message
Bots can log messages, including message editing and deletion events. If your preferred Discord/Slack server provides a public log, that sorts that out; if it's your own Discord/Slack server, you can provide your own bot. These can be as simple as 20 lines of Python, maybe less. I'm sure services like Mattermost, which seems to be the top open Slack clone, would facilitate these features more easily.
I would imagine Mozilla would keep logs. Further, Discord also automatically provides a moderation log to keep a history of all those events.
It really sounds like you're inventing to do with software with which you've little experience.
- swiley 7y ago> people can enjoy media the way they want, not just the way you deem fit Unless the official client doesn't support it of course. (showing edits as new messages is a great example of this.) And I'm not saying they shouldn't be allowed to enjoy that, but everything has trade offs and automatically opening links from strangers certainly has a lot of those. >Just as well Discord, Slack, and others put a little "(edited)" annotation next to edited messages. Plus, one can only edit one's own messages; moderators cannot edit other peoples' messages as they can on forums. I'm well aware of that, it still doesn't help me when I need to see the original version of the message. > Bots can log messages, Having to run personal bots is one of the arguments you've made against IRC. Furthermore, it's often not allowed. > If your preferred Discord/Slack server If I could pick the server most of my problems would go away. >It really sounds like you're inventing to do with software with which you've little experience. I have less experience with it than IRC, when I used to use IRC it was voluntary because it was actually pleasant. I never use slack, discord, or lync/skype voluntarily, but I've been forced to use all three by various organizations.