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did I read that wrong or does it say I can get a 50% code quality improvement by just sleeping what ever is considered normal?

by Zekio 7y ago

luckylion 7y ago
50% improvement for sleeping vs not sleeping at all.
- davemp 7y ago
  That honestly seems conservative. The times I've missed an entire night I've been essentially useless or an actual detriment.
  - jimbokun 7y ago
    In reality, your "productivity" is likely to be negative, as you will need to spend even more time fixing the mistakes you made trying to program in a sleep deprived state.
  - hinkley 7y ago
    One of the first faculties to go is judgement. Those macho people who talk about toughing it out literally don’t know what they are talking about. You can’t self monitor when you’re loopy. And your recall of events is hampered too. The only measure you can count on is to look at the consequences after the fact, and there are a lot of fragile egos that can’t handle counting the cost of all their mistakes. If you won’t see them you can’t account for them in your mental math. I’ve tried to borrow some ideas from protocols for hypoxia. By the time you’re loopy you should not be making any decisions.
  - deathanatos 7y ago
    I've seen this. Had a co-worker who was up most of a night dealing with a page. Came into work, wrote some brand new code, and since it was basically all written on that day, and all by him, it was easy to trace back to him / that event. The whole thing was riddled with bugs, and well below his usual quality level. Most of it got rewritten fairly quick, but yeah, if he'd taken the day off and then written it the next day, time would have been saved. I feel like it's hard to really know when you're in that state, too. Your mind is too apt to go "I'm fine."
nicolashahn 7y ago
Yes. I believe it. Everything gets thrown off by missing out on sleep, but I think the abstract thought, short-term memory, and attention to detail required to program takes an outsized hit compared to most other physical and psychological problems that arise from insufficient sleep. I noticed this in myself when I was studying and interviewing for jobs and my anxiety was preventing me from sleeping well.
captainbland 7y ago
It's more like if you've been sleeping properly and then you are sleep deprived for a whole night you'll probably see a 50% drop in your code quality. Once you've rested and fully recovered from that, you may have code quality which is 100% greater than your sleep-deprived state. Although realistically I imagine it might take more than one night with good sleep for you to recover fully from that. And then you know, there's going to be variation between each individual, quality metrics may be up for debate, etc.

did I read that wrong or does it say I can get a 50% code quality improvement by just sleeping what ever is considered normal?

by Zekio 7y ago

did I read that wrong or does it say I can get a 50% code quality improvement by just sleeping what ever is considered normal?

luckylion 7y ago

50% improvement for sleeping vs not sleeping at all.

davemp 7y ago
That honestly seems conservative. The times I've missed an entire night I've been essentially useless or an actual detriment.
- jimbokun 7y ago
  In reality, your "productivity" is likely to be negative, as you will need to spend even more time fixing the mistakes you made trying to program in a sleep deprived state.
- hinkley 7y ago
  One of the first faculties to go is judgement. Those macho people who talk about toughing it out literally don’t know what they are talking about. You can’t self monitor when you’re loopy. And your recall of events is hampered too. The only measure you can count on is to look at the consequences after the fact, and there are a lot of fragile egos that can’t handle counting the cost of all their mistakes. If you won’t see them you can’t account for them in your mental math. I’ve tried to borrow some ideas from protocols for hypoxia. By the time you’re loopy you should not be making any decisions.
- deathanatos 7y ago
  I've seen this. Had a co-worker who was up most of a night dealing with a page. Came into work, wrote some brand new code, and since it was basically all written on that day, and all by him, it was easy to trace back to him / that event. The whole thing was riddled with bugs, and well below his usual quality level. Most of it got rewritten fairly quick, but yeah, if he'd taken the day off and then written it the next day, time would have been saved. I feel like it's hard to really know when you're in that state, too. Your mind is too apt to go "I'm fine."

nicolashahn 7y ago

Yes. I believe it. Everything gets thrown off by missing out on sleep, but I think the abstract thought, short-term memory, and attention to detail required to program takes an outsized hit compared to most other physical and psychological problems that arise from insufficient sleep. I noticed this in myself when I was studying and interviewing for jobs and my anxiety was preventing me from sleeping well.

captainbland 7y ago

It's more like if you've been sleeping properly and then you are sleep deprived for a whole night you'll probably see a 50% drop in your code quality. Once you've rested and fully recovered from that, you may have code quality which is 100% greater than your sleep-deprived state. Although realistically I imagine it might take more than one night with good sleep for you to recover fully from that. And then you know, there's going to be variation between each individual, quality metrics may be up for debate, etc.