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Interesting Pay-as-you-go hosting company (With Lisp etc. on CGI)

14 points by lupin_sansei 19y ago

lupin_sansei 19y ago
How does $1/GB compare with other hosts?
- BitGeek 19y ago
  Its a great deal for a blog or anything normal... If you need the bandwidth though, you can go to S3. Easily you could host your html at their site and then use S3 for the big files ($0.20/GB BW cost, $0.15GB storage cost at S3). I think site pricing is based on the theory that people think that bandiwth is expensive and they are afraid of using too much-- so Dreamhost offers huge bandwith in their plans--- but they won't actually let you use it. Most places are like this... which makes nearlyfreespeach.net a really good-- honest and straightforward-- choice.
- aquateen 19y ago
  I pay $20 a month for DreamHost and they allow me 4TB a month. However this place looks like a great web host if you're not building YouTube. Now I know where to host any lisp projects; unfortunately, they don't handle RoR very well.
  - AF 19y ago
    Heh, well if you are building YouTube, Dreamhost isn't going to do much good either. :)
    - aquateen 19y ago
      Hehe. I just put DH up there an an example. I chose it to host some small personal projects because it didn't seem too bad a deal... I don't use a fraction of what I'm allotted.
      - yaacovtp 19y ago
        What's the most bandwidth you've ever used with DH? Every shared host place I've talked to has CPU limits and would shut the site down or force an upgrade long before you would get near 4 TB.
- vlad 19y ago
  One dollar per gigabyte is extremely expensive.
  - acgourley 19y ago
    Of course you're only getting what you pay for at other hosts if you use exactly your allotment. Consider the websites I'm working on now, I need some advanced features so I have a medium sized package with way too much disk and bandwidth.
    - vlad 19y ago
      I would avoid all web hosts that offer crazy pricing and a lot of bandwidth because they are either amateurs, desperate, have terrible support because of the number of accounts as well as because those prices attract cheapskates, who then drag the support team's morale down. However, a lot of bandwidth is important as insurance so you don't pay overages and the host doesn't turn off your site for the month. On the other hand, more important than that is the ability to upgrade to a better package at a later time. You should be able to upgrade to 800 GB bandwidth for about $80 to $120 a month. Though of course you'd want to get a dedicated server with that kind of traffic, it takes some time to research another web host, sign up, check them out, try them out at different times of day, upload some stuff, wait for the dns to propogate, and more. So, you want a host that lets you upgrade to an account with more bandwidth the same day you request it. Hosts that have a $5 plan, an $8 plan, and a $12 plan as their highest, I would avoid. Hosts that have a $20 plan for 300GB, $60 for $500, and $80 for 800GB, I would think actually plan on their users using their bandwidth. I signed up for KnownHost.com just now, who have the best uptime AND 38 servers with who knows how many VPS accounts on each one, and they have immediate e-mail support and a very fast VPS. I am going to have to switch to something else that has ruby on rails preinstalled because neither I nor the tech could figure it out, even after trying 6 different installation instructions, removing cpanel, with cpanel, etc.
- lupin_sansei 19y ago
  On further reading I think these guys are aiming at the market of low-ish bandwidth sites that only use say 3GB per month, but are paying $30 for say 1TB: "When you use one of these services, you're betting your monthly fee that you're going to land in the "sweet spot," usually around 75% - 95% of what their package allows, where you're getting a great deal. Use too little and you're paying a lot for it. Use too much and they tack on overage charges. When you do that, you're making that bet based on a few hours of research. The guys you're betting against take those bets for a living, all day every day. They have all the info, they hold all the cards, and they make a lot of money. It is possible to beat the odds and get a great deal. Like a casino, they can afford to let a few people "win" because so many people only think they do. But it's a lot of work, and it's a new game every month. " https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/about/faq.php#30GB

14 points by lupin_sansei 19y ago

lupin_sansei 19y ago

How does $1/GB compare with other hosts?

BitGeek 19y ago
Its a great deal for a blog or anything normal... If you need the bandwidth though, you can go to S3. Easily you could host your html at their site and then use S3 for the big files ($0.20/GB BW cost, $0.15GB storage cost at S3). I think site pricing is based on the theory that people think that bandiwth is expensive and they are afraid of using too much-- so Dreamhost offers huge bandwith in their plans--- but they won't actually let you use it. Most places are like this... which makes nearlyfreespeach.net a really good-- honest and straightforward-- choice.
aquateen 19y ago
I pay $20 a month for DreamHost and they allow me 4TB a month. However this place looks like a great web host if you're not building YouTube. Now I know where to host any lisp projects; unfortunately, they don't handle RoR very well.
- AF 19y ago
  Heh, well if you are building YouTube, Dreamhost isn't going to do much good either. :)
  - aquateen 19y ago
    Hehe. I just put DH up there an an example. I chose it to host some small personal projects because it didn't seem too bad a deal... I don't use a fraction of what I'm allotted.
    - yaacovtp 19y ago
      What's the most bandwidth you've ever used with DH? Every shared host place I've talked to has CPU limits and would shut the site down or force an upgrade long before you would get near 4 TB.
vlad 19y ago
One dollar per gigabyte is extremely expensive.
- acgourley 19y ago
  Of course you're only getting what you pay for at other hosts if you use exactly your allotment. Consider the websites I'm working on now, I need some advanced features so I have a medium sized package with way too much disk and bandwidth.
  - vlad 19y ago
    I would avoid all web hosts that offer crazy pricing and a lot of bandwidth because they are either amateurs, desperate, have terrible support because of the number of accounts as well as because those prices attract cheapskates, who then drag the support team's morale down. However, a lot of bandwidth is important as insurance so you don't pay overages and the host doesn't turn off your site for the month. On the other hand, more important than that is the ability to upgrade to a better package at a later time. You should be able to upgrade to 800 GB bandwidth for about $80 to $120 a month. Though of course you'd want to get a dedicated server with that kind of traffic, it takes some time to research another web host, sign up, check them out, try them out at different times of day, upload some stuff, wait for the dns to propogate, and more. So, you want a host that lets you upgrade to an account with more bandwidth the same day you request it. Hosts that have a $5 plan, an $8 plan, and a $12 plan as their highest, I would avoid. Hosts that have a $20 plan for 300GB, $60 for $500, and $80 for 800GB, I would think actually plan on their users using their bandwidth. I signed up for KnownHost.com just now, who have the best uptime AND 38 servers with who knows how many VPS accounts on each one, and they have immediate e-mail support and a very fast VPS. I am going to have to switch to something else that has ruby on rails preinstalled because neither I nor the tech could figure it out, even after trying 6 different installation instructions, removing cpanel, with cpanel, etc.
lupin_sansei 19y ago
On further reading I think these guys are aiming at the market of low-ish bandwidth sites that only use say 3GB per month, but are paying $30 for say 1TB: "When you use one of these services, you're betting your monthly fee that you're going to land in the "sweet spot," usually around 75% - 95% of what their package allows, where you're getting a great deal. Use too little and you're paying a lot for it. Use too much and they tack on overage charges. When you do that, you're making that bet based on a few hours of research. The guys you're betting against take those bets for a living, all day every day. They have all the info, they hold all the cards, and they make a lot of money. It is possible to beat the odds and get a great deal. Like a casino, they can afford to let a few people "win" because so many people only think they do. But it's a lot of work, and it's a new game every month. " https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/about/faq.php#30GB