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While not a conclusion, the reports of objects that defy the known laws of physics are extensive by this point. If the incidents are not the result of "alien a
by thestartup 7y ago
While not a conclusion, the reports of objects that defy the known laws of physics are extensive by this point.
If the incidents are not the result of "alien activity" perhaps the US Military does have supremely advanced technology under wraps and is demonstrating this technology to ambiguously create the idea that it could be "aliens".
- hopler 7y agoPlease link to some reports from reputable sources.
- vorpalhex 7y agoI don't know about "defying the laws of physics" (since if it could truly defy the laws of the physics that would be whack) but plenty of stealth bombers were reported as "mysterious UFOs" before they were officially revealed in any capacity - and I'm sure there is no shortage of experimental craft that never made the cut. Hell, even if someone saw a B-2 today they'd probably think it's alien.
- Izkata 7y ago> I don't know about "defying the laws of physics" (since if it could truly defy the laws of the physics that would be whack) It refers to objects that start and stop moving instantaneously, or make turns at hard right angles, as if they have no inertia.
- abakker 7y agoball lightning?
- gdy 7y agoVery high acceleration and deceleration don't defy laws of physics.
- dx87 7y agoThey didn't say very high acceleration, they said instantaneous changes in speed, like the object has no mass.
- Dylan16807 7y agoBut the context is visual observation, where there's no way to tell the difference between the two.
- PhaedrusV 7y agoWhen my mom watched "Independence Day" she started booing the B-2's because she thought they were aliens...
- dsfyu404ed 7y ago>Hell, even if someone saw a B-2 today they'd probably think it's alien. They'd probably think they're living in the matrix and several pixels of sky are glitching.
- joshuaheard 7y agoThere was one on HN last year where Navy pilots saw an object hover above the water then shoot up 10,000 feet in a matter of seconds, hover there, then come back down to the surface. It bounced up and down like that several times then shot off into space. One pilot said the bouncing seemed like a preparation for its eventual takeoff. It was confirmed by Navy radar. There was a great interview last night on Tucker Carlson where the expert said there are basically two possibilities that the military should explore: one of our terrestrial enemies has an aviation capability more advanced than ours, or an extraterrestrial civilization has capabilities more advanced than us. Of course, there could be some sort of natural phenomenon we don't know about. In any event, it is worth investigating in a rational way.
- mc32 7y agoNot sure if the upper atmosphere has something similar to Fata Morgana, but at least in the lower atmosphere it can deceive the location of objects in the distance.
- lwansbrough 7y agoLinked in another comment is the incident you’re recalling: https://youtu.be/G9D8dzl4zGk https://youtu.be/G9D8dzl4zGk
- waiseristy 7y agoAnd an interview with the pilot https://www.fighterpilotpodcast.com/episodes/035-ufos/ https://www.fighterpilotpodcast.com/episodes/035-ufos/
- internet_user 7y agohard to trust video these days, unless there is a chain of custody. How are we to know it's not someone testing their film director/CGI skills?
- dogma1138 7y agoThis was released by the pentagon and covered by very large media outlet, the pilots were interviewed. This doesn’t mean it’s aliens but this is pretty fucked up.
- MockObject 7y agohttps://web.archive.org/web/20110716064152/http://dewoody.net/ufo/Science_in_Default.html https://web.archive.org/web/20110716064152/http://dewoody.ne...
- sago 7y ago"Defy the known laws of physics" is thrown about a lot. But usually means "If what we are seeing is a self-contained vehicle, it exceeds reasonable assumptions about manoeuvring envelopes for known technologies." The "laws of physics" are pretty wide. There are many kinetic phenomena, entirely consistent with them, whose dynamics can't be filmed even at thousands of frames per second. There are all kinds of potential optical and electromagnetic effects (whether natural or intentional) that could show essentially arbitrary scale and motion. "Def[ies] the known laws of physics", is a good sign your imagination is too narrow, or your understanding of physics too small.
- hermitdev 7y agoNot trying to be pedantic, but I think this fits well with your comment. To the best of my knowledge, the only accepted laws of physics relate to the 3 laws of thermodynamics. Everything else is still considered a theory (to the best of my knowledge), even if the theory works really damn well (for instance relativity is still considered a theory). I know there are accepted "laws" in other fields related to physics, such as Ohm's or Kerchov's laws in electrical engineering, but I don't think these are generally accepted scientific laws, more generally accepted as engineering laws where for nearly all cases for engineering, they apply to a sufficient accuracy to produce products that are sufficient.
- mehrdadn 7y ago> To the best of my knowledge, the only accepted laws of physics relate to the 3 laws of thermodynamics. How about conservation of momentum?
- chopin 7y agoFollowing Noether's theorem conservation of momentum relies on translational symmetry of space which we assume but have no proof for (other than measurements of conservation of momentum). In so far it is theory territory. Thermodynamics on the other hand relies only on effects of large numbers (of hard balls) with no further assumptions. In so far I can understand the GP assertion although I am reluctant. You put in the hard ball assumption (particles can exchange energy) which may put it in theory territory. As well the laws hold only for equilibrium situations which can be reached in (sufficiently dense) baryonic matter but maybe not for non-baryonic matter.
- JudgeWapner 7y ago> defy the known laws of physics my guess is some kind of ion thruster like they have for spacecraft, but somehow powerful enough to work on earth.