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Significantly higher? A brand new 3 series is 40k, an Audi A4 is 39k, and a C Class is 41k. I’m not even looking at the smaller 4 door models from Audi and Benz
by wil421 8y ago
Significantly higher? A brand new 3 series is 40k, an Audi A4 is 39k, and a C Class is 41k. I’m not even looking at the smaller 4 door models from Audi and Benz which are even less than the Model 3. Maybe Europe gets a smaller 4 door BMW.
I didn’t even count the offerings from Japan which are even less.
- nradov 8y agoAn Audi A4 is really not a luxury vehicle in any meaningful sense.
- wil421 8y agoThat’s a pretty laughable statement unless you’re in Europe and get the lower trims we don’t. Pretty much all car reviews put the A4 in the luxury sedan segment[1]. Not the segment with the Accord or Camry. Following your logic the model 3 isn’t a luxury car either. [1]https://www.caranddriver.com/features/g15379432/small-entry-level-luxury-cars/ https://www.caranddriver.com/features/g15379432/small-entry-...
- arethuza 8y agoObviously different markets classify "luxury cars" is very different ways leading to the confusion e.g. https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/best-cars/top-10-best-luxury-cars https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/best-cars/top-10-best-lux...
- wil421 8y agoThose are not mid size sedans. Some of those are not even Sedans like the Range Rover and I-Pace.
- arethuza 8y agoThe point I was trying to make is that different markets define "luxury" in different ways - I don't think anyone here in the UK would call an Audi A4 a luxury car - even at its highest spec level. Edit: Sort of reminds me of the differences in defining "class" between the US and the UK :-)
- lancewiggs 8y agoThat’s a statement that’s easy to make from a privileged position. Luxury is in the eyes of the beholder, and that car costs two thirds of the median income (before tax, healthcare, housing, food) in the USA.
- georgerobinson 8y agoIt's the same in Western Europe, the difference is that cheap lease deals and finance have made them affordable for a significant amount of people and so these cars are extremely common. You see more 3 series than Toyota's or Hyundai's.
- oblio 8y agoAre you sure about that? https://www.bbc.com/news/business-46774053 https://www.bbc.com/news/business-46774053 Every sales graph I've ever seen has relatively cheap cars such as the Fiesta, Golf, Corsa, etc. at the top. Not big Mercedes or BMWs.
- georgerobinson 8y agoYes. I'm not saying that people in the market for a Ford Fiesta are instead going out and buying a 3 series. People who want a hatchback and going out and buying hatchbacks. But people who want saloons and estate cars are largely buying from the three Germans, and not Japanese or Korean.
- sliken 8y agoI've heard one of the more popular cars people moved from to buy a model 3 is the toyota prius... definitely not a luxury car.
- georgerobinson 8y agoToyota Prius do not exist in Western Europe outside Uber. They are synonymous with Uber driver and rarely ever bought for private use.
- BoorishBears 8y agoIf the A4 isn’t a luxury vehicle, the Model 3 is what?
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