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> How do you convince someone like this that universal healthcare is better for all of us? American conservatism is authoritarian. The only way to reach an aut
by shirakawasuna 8y ago
> How do you convince someone like this that universal healthcare is better for all of us?
American conservatism is authoritarian. The only way to reach an authoritarian is to shame them. Because they are family, you shouldn't insult them or anything, but you need them to be on the defensive about those ideas.
Go through each one and ask them why they think that, but don't leave it open-ended, make it clear that you're asking why they think that despite all the evidence.
Example for response 1:
Why do you believe your taxes going up is a problem when you will be paying much less overall? How many dollars are you willing to spend to avoid one dollar in taxes?
The clarifying factor where you hold the cards and knowledge, and they don't (and therefore feel shame) is the simple fact that universal, taxpayer-funded healthcare is far cheaper than private healthcare.
Because they are authoritarian and this line of thinking disagrees with the authority, there's a very good chance that this will not work, at all. Instead, they will try to change the subject. Don't let them. Patiently guide them back to the question at hand, make them explain how much money they're willing to spend to avoid paying taxes, make them deal with the fact that they will save money.
Depending on the person, they will just trudge out or start insulting you. If you're lucky, they might listen a little. It's rare that anyone will change their mind on the spot, let alone an authoritarian conservative, whose entire identity is predicated on believing nonsense given by a chosen authority. But, if you do it enough times, it can start to sink in. Alternatively, if they start insulting you, that's when you have to bring out the less polite shaming, because it's what they respond to.
Best of luck.
- Mirioron 8y ago>American conservatism is authoritarian. That's funny, I don't see how you got there though. Liberals seem to engage in authoritarian tactics quite often from what I can see. Demands for censorship seems to come from there. >Why do you believe your taxes going up is a problem when you will be paying much less overall? And then they counter with: If people will get better healthcare then somebody will have to pay for it. I like my current healthcare, so I'm going to be the one that has to pay for those other people. Now the onus is on you to prove to them that their costs won't increase. You'll find it very difficult, because those costs probably will increase. >The clarifying factor where you hold the cards and knowledge, and they don't (and therefore feel shame) is the simple fact that universal, taxpayer-funded healthcare is far cheaper than private healthcare. What's your evidence for that? Because if you're going to cite other countries then you also have to keep in mind that they have a completely different structure for healthcare outside of whether the government pays for it or not. The US does more biomedical research than other countries, doctors are paid more, more treatments are available etc. I don't think it's nearly as easy to try to convince someone that universal healthcare is cheaper or better. Also, when you say universal what do you mean? Universal, where everyone gets it or the 'universal' that some (many?) countries do, where you have to be employed and pay over a certain amount of tax to get healthcare or healthcare is predicated on you having mandatory insurance?