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Boeing South Carolina teammates are producing the highest levels of quality in our history,” Kevin McAllister, Boeing’s head of commercial airplanes, said in a

Boeing South Carolina teammates are producing the highest levels of quality in our history,” Kevin McAllister, Boeing’s head of commercial airplanes, said in a statement. “I am proud of our teams’ exceptional commitment to quality and stand behind the work they do each and every day. Whoever is sitting down to write Boeing's PR response quotes needs to be fired, along with whichever c-suite exec is approving them. It's not acceptable to totally ignore actual safely issues being brought to light and respond universally with panglossian emptiness. The quote about not needing to ground the Max, before being ordered to do so, was especially egregious.

lisper 7y ago
> It's not acceptable to totally ignore actual safely issues being brought to light and respond universally with panglossian emptiness. Not only is it acceptable, it's effective. Until a 787 actually crashes and provides unambiguous evidence that the whistleblowers are telling the truth, it's a he-said-she-said situation.
- DoctorOetker 7y ago
  if there is a possibility that further analysis and research (of flight recorders, code inspections, ...) unambiguously proves a problem I don't see why precautionary grounding (by an authority with the proper jurisdiction) would be bad?
  - lisper 7y ago
    It isn't, but that's not what is under discussion here.
bufordtwain 7y ago
Although it seems to be the same playbook as used by Trump - which so far has worked well for him. Deny deny deny and say you're the very best.
- vondur 7y ago
  Keep your politics to yourself, it has nothing to do with the topic being discussed.
  - deleted 7y ago
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  - sophacles 7y ago
    Boeing safety is a political issue: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/boeing-ceo-called-president-trump-after-737-max-8-disaster-ny-times-2019-3 https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/boeing-... If a company tries (temporarily successfully) to use political connections to respond to safety issues, it's fair to bring that up in light of related safety issues.
    - fallous 7y ago
      Which of course has nothing to do with the actual political message in the original comment to which vondur was responding. Had that comment made any reference to a relationship between Boeing and a particular politician, or political group, it would indeed be fair to bring that to light.
  - javert 7y ago
    That statement wasn't political, and it has everything to do with the topic being discussed. It wasn't political because Trump's "style" is a fact recognized by partisans on both sides; they just judge it differently. I can't even tell if OP is for or against. It has to do with the topic because it's an observation of the same underlying trend: that lying is becoming a standard and accepted behavior in America. People are no longer punished for lying, so they are doing it more and more.
  - octonion 7y ago
    It's relevant as it illustrates lying has become normalized and unpunished at the highest levels.
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lisper 7y ago

> It's not acceptable to totally ignore actual safely issues being brought to light and respond universally with panglossian emptiness. Not only is it acceptable, it's effective. Until a 787 actually crashes and provides unambiguous evidence that the whistleblowers are telling the truth, it's a he-said-she-said situation.

DoctorOetker 7y ago
if there is a possibility that further analysis and research (of flight recorders, code inspections, ...) unambiguously proves a problem I don't see why precautionary grounding (by an authority with the proper jurisdiction) would be bad?
- lisper 7y ago
  It isn't, but that's not what is under discussion here.

bufordtwain 7y ago

Although it seems to be the same playbook as used by Trump - which so far has worked well for him. Deny deny deny and say you're the very best.

vondur 7y ago
Keep your politics to yourself, it has nothing to do with the topic being discussed.
- deleted 7y ago
  [deleted]
- sophacles 7y ago
  Boeing safety is a political issue: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/boeing-ceo-called-president-trump-after-737-max-8-disaster-ny-times-2019-3 https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/boeing-... If a company tries (temporarily successfully) to use political connections to respond to safety issues, it's fair to bring that up in light of related safety issues.
  - fallous 7y ago
    Which of course has nothing to do with the actual political message in the original comment to which vondur was responding. Had that comment made any reference to a relationship between Boeing and a particular politician, or political group, it would indeed be fair to bring that to light.
- javert 7y ago
  That statement wasn't political, and it has everything to do with the topic being discussed. It wasn't political because Trump's "style" is a fact recognized by partisans on both sides; they just judge it differently. I can't even tell if OP is for or against. It has to do with the topic because it's an observation of the same underlying trend: that lying is becoming a standard and accepted behavior in America. People are no longer punished for lying, so they are doing it more and more.
- octonion 7y ago
  It's relevant as it illustrates lying has become normalized and unpunished at the highest levels.
7y ago