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Have you ever had to sift through 300 resumes for an open position? Did you ever have to do it multiple times in a quarter? If you have time to do that, and do

Have you ever had to sift through 300 resumes for an open position? Did you ever have to do it multiple times in a quarter? If you have time to do that, and do it well, and still hit your numbers, congrats.

lordnacho 8y ago
I've done that, and during peak hiring periods it does get a bit intense, but I think it's essential it's done by a coder, not an HR person. It's also something to give your day a bit of variety. And the big plus is you get to decide who you want to work with.
- abledon 8y ago
  Do you think Resumes made in LaTeX get screwed by the HR robot screening programs that scan documents for keywords? I mean, if your document has some weird formatting going on, I could see the program miss some crucial keywords buried inside a nested table or something
  - sokoloff 8y ago
    And if this screwing is happening, would that make you more or less likely to use LaTeX to create your resume? It would make me more likely to use it...
    - hopler 8y ago
      Sure, if you enjoy being unemployed because you only want to work at a mythical company that tailors their HR processes to your obscure formatting preferences, or is so undesirable that they have time to read all resumes that come in.
      - sokoloff 8y ago
        I don't know if enjoy is the right word, but prefer is certainly correct. Sending someone a resume as a PDF file generated from LaTeX is far from an obscure format.
        raghava 8y ago
        Now a days, pretty much everyone uses an automated resume parser.
- wolco 8y ago
  Why should you get a say in who works with you? As a team lead I'm trying to find the right balance. If we hire only people the current devs like we endup having too many similiar developers with the same mindset and shortcomings. Trying to have a more diverse, balanced team means you don't get a say.
  - hopler 8y ago
    Why do you think your good people don't want to work with people that complement them? Why do you think you are so much better than them at balancing a team? I pity the team that has to work with such an egostistical openly hostile lead, but I imagine it must give you plenty of experience with recruiting and hiring.
    - wolco 8y ago
      You want someone as equally as good as you who complements your skillset. I want someone different than you who renforces areas where you are weak so the product is stronger overall. Getting along is good overall but being able to debate from different perspectives is important. What you think of the hire shouldn't matter because you are looking to perserve your place on the team and that taints your judgement. You shouldn't hire your own boss for similiar reasons. You should never hire your peer.
  - lordnacho 8y ago
    > Why should you get a say in who works with you? The feeling of autonomy is quite important for a lot of modern knowledge workers. There's more than one lever, but if you force enough of them, it becomes a crap place to work.
  - ddingus 8y ago
    Actually, doing that means everyone getting a balanced say. Two way street. If you make it one way, it is all on you, and when that team says that, you get all the credit. Good or bad, and the team knows it. Will definitely throw you under a bus, given cause. If you make it a balanced discussion, everyone taking shared ownership, then it is on everyone. The difference shows up in two places: One, bad call. The team can come together, own it, and letting the bad call go is not so rough. The follow on discussion is rational and productive. The other one is getting that different point of view. Having that discussion sets great expectations. Being challenged, getting better, all that is welcome. A team that does this successfully tends to congeal and do extremely well. Play it how you want to play it, but I definitely prefer to have it all on the table, open, team discussion, frank, high value. Mix in a reluctance to blame and shame, favor choices outcomes and data and you get a team that can weather the good and bad, everyone helping everyone too. The lead is responsible for cultivating that culture, empowering people, resolving conflicts, etc. Also owns team business meetings, data, all that. Just saying.

lordnacho 8y ago

I've done that, and during peak hiring periods it does get a bit intense, but I think it's essential it's done by a coder, not an HR person. It's also something to give your day a bit of variety. And the big plus is you get to decide who you want to work with.

abledon 8y ago
Do you think Resumes made in LaTeX get screwed by the HR robot screening programs that scan documents for keywords? I mean, if your document has some weird formatting going on, I could see the program miss some crucial keywords buried inside a nested table or something
- sokoloff 8y ago
  And if this screwing is happening, would that make you more or less likely to use LaTeX to create your resume? It would make me more likely to use it...
  - hopler 8y ago
    Sure, if you enjoy being unemployed because you only want to work at a mythical company that tailors their HR processes to your obscure formatting preferences, or is so undesirable that they have time to read all resumes that come in.
    - sokoloff 8y ago
      I don't know if enjoy is the right word, but prefer is certainly correct. Sending someone a resume as a PDF file generated from LaTeX is far from an obscure format.
      - raghava 8y ago
        Now a days, pretty much everyone uses an automated resume parser.
wolco 8y ago
Why should you get a say in who works with you? As a team lead I'm trying to find the right balance. If we hire only people the current devs like we endup having too many similiar developers with the same mindset and shortcomings. Trying to have a more diverse, balanced team means you don't get a say.
- hopler 8y ago
  Why do you think your good people don't want to work with people that complement them? Why do you think you are so much better than them at balancing a team? I pity the team that has to work with such an egostistical openly hostile lead, but I imagine it must give you plenty of experience with recruiting and hiring.
  - wolco 8y ago
    You want someone as equally as good as you who complements your skillset. I want someone different than you who renforces areas where you are weak so the product is stronger overall. Getting along is good overall but being able to debate from different perspectives is important. What you think of the hire shouldn't matter because you are looking to perserve your place on the team and that taints your judgement. You shouldn't hire your own boss for similiar reasons. You should never hire your peer.
- lordnacho 8y ago
  > Why should you get a say in who works with you? The feeling of autonomy is quite important for a lot of modern knowledge workers. There's more than one lever, but if you force enough of them, it becomes a crap place to work.
- ddingus 8y ago
  Actually, doing that means everyone getting a balanced say. Two way street. If you make it one way, it is all on you, and when that team says that, you get all the credit. Good or bad, and the team knows it. Will definitely throw you under a bus, given cause. If you make it a balanced discussion, everyone taking shared ownership, then it is on everyone. The difference shows up in two places: One, bad call. The team can come together, own it, and letting the bad call go is not so rough. The follow on discussion is rational and productive. The other one is getting that different point of view. Having that discussion sets great expectations. Being challenged, getting better, all that is welcome. A team that does this successfully tends to congeal and do extremely well. Play it how you want to play it, but I definitely prefer to have it all on the table, open, team discussion, frank, high value. Mix in a reluctance to blame and shame, favor choices outcomes and data and you get a team that can weather the good and bad, everyone helping everyone too. The lead is responsible for cultivating that culture, empowering people, resolving conflicts, etc. Also owns team business meetings, data, all that. Just saying.