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hmm... am I alone in being someone who likes the butterfly keyboard?
by ajma 7y ago
hmm... am I alone in being someone who likes the butterfly keyboard?
- auggierose 7y agono, you are not
- legohead 7y agoas long as it lasts, I enjoy it.
- Dylan16807 7y agoNot at all. Even a lot of people that hate it, liked it for several months until it broke. That doesn't say much about whether it's a good idea overall, though.
- Tempest1981 7y agoRight. It's a very polarizing keyboard design. Whereas previous designs pleased everyone.
- jackconnor 7y agoI also hate it, but maybe it’s like music and it’s totally subjective.
- ummonk 7y agoI haven't had too much trouble with it aside from a poorly responsive spacebar at one point. I still dislike it though, and don't really find any value in the extra thinness.
- sonofaplum 7y agothe article isn't about the feel of the keyboard, its about the reliability. Unless you are saying you like stuck keys?
- robertAngst 7y agoApple users say they like that Apple is closed, so I wouldn't put it past them.
- kalleboo 7y agoI like the sharpness of it and don't mind short travel. I hate when I have to send my laptop in to Apple for 10 days to repair it because a speck of dust entered it. So now I use a "keyboard condom" on it to keep dust out (despite Apple's explicit support article saying NOT to use one) and it's turned into the worst keyboard since the ZX80
- cmroanirgo 7y agoThe apple repair store near me (not an apple store per-se) has those condoms on the customer facing keyboards. Wow, they're awful!
- threeseed 7y agoI have the Ghostcover and it's amazing. Doesn't cover the TouchBar and helps to soften the noise.
- swah 7y agoOh how sad. I remember those videos showing the first unibody MBPs, everyone was drooling over those. Now people have to use that!! [1] while $200 laptops from ASUS have keyboards that work for 10 years. I wish they were the kind of company that could admit a mistake, but it breaks their story. [1] https://store.gouppercase.com/products/premium-keyboard-protector https://store.gouppercase.com/products/premium-keyboard-prot...
- threeseed 7y agoNot sure what you're talking about. Nobody has to use them. I like to use them so my laptop keyboard stays clean and helps soften the noise since MacBook Pro is designed to at least partially emulate a mechanical keyboard.
- sbuk 7y agoNope.
- dmitriid 7y agoI didn’t like it first. Then I became ok with it. But it’s so so so infuriatingly shoddy. Cmd fell out on my previous laptop. On my current one most of the keys feel wobbly. Coupled with accidental brushes againt touchbar and the unnecessarily enlarged touchpad frequently failing at palm rejection this ends up being a very subpar experience compared to earlier models.
- ricw 7y agoI love it. I recently had to temporarily go back to a 2014 MacBook and it just felt mushy and imprecise. The new keyboards feel sharp and way more precise. Just simply better.
- camhenlin 7y agoI love them. The newer keyboards have a very satisfying clickiness to them. I guess I'm lucky to have a 2018 model that's not had keystroke issues however
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- thought_alarm 7y agoThe arrow keys are one of the most essential parts of a keyboard for people who write a lot of code or otherwise do a lot of copyediting. This type of user needs to be able to lock on to the arrow keys repeatedly and unconsciously without fail throughout the work day. Apple's keyboard designers understood this and got it right for over 15 years. But that changed in 2016. As of 2016, Apple's new keyboards provide zero affordances for these kinds of users and are completely unsuitable for real work. You couldn't pay me enough to use one of these keyboard for writing code, and I certainly wouldn't pay my own money for one.
- fredsir 7y ago> The arrow keys are one of the most essential parts of a keyboard for people who write a lot of code Ahem... I think you meant "hjkl". Just joking ;)
- AndrewDavis 7y agoHow's that escape key going? :p
- mruts 7y agoHonest question: Why are you using arrow keys for coding?
- ilikehurdles 7y agoIf you’re going to suggest vim bindings, fine, I get it; but the act of moving a cursor around to insert, remove, replace, or otherwise refactor parts of code is pretty essential to my workflow and I can’t imagine how someone wouldn’t need it. I use structural editing shortcuts quite a bit, but not 100% of the time.
- wilsonnb3 7y agoI think you’d be surprised as to how many people just use the mouse for that.
- SenHeng 7y agoBeen using them for several years now and I like them a lot too. I have the v2 MacBook where the 'b' key got stuck once but I managed to fix with some can of air spray. Have had various MBPs at work and most of been fine too. I've always had a habit ofregularly clean my keyboards too which I think may have helped reduce the amount of dirt getting stuck underneath.
- ta20190419 7y ago> I've always had a habit ofregularly “of regularly”
- linguae 7y agoMy company bought me a 2018 MacBook Pro about two weeks ago and so far I'm enjoying the keyboard; I like the tactile feel (I typically use mechanical keyboards whenever I'm at a desk, and so the tactile feel of the MacBook Pro's keyboard was a pleasant surprise), and there's more travel than I thought there would be. I remember trying the butterfly keyboards back in 2016 and hating them, so either something must have changed or my preferences have changed. With that being said, I've only had this MacBook Pro for two weeks, and so we'll see if it remains reliable over the next few years.
- eeeeeeeeeeeee 7y agoI think you’ll find a lot of people that like the way the keys feel and travel — like me — but are really tired of not having a reliable machine. I’ve had to take multiple different machines in for repair. And each time I have to tell them to replace the entire keyboard, but they always want to blow it with an air can. Utterly infuriating.
- nihonde 7y agoNo, I also like it. I’m not saying the complaints are unfounded, but they’re not my issues. I broke the command key after about a year of heavy use, but it took about five minutes at an Apple Store to have it replaced. I’ve broken keys on every laptop I’ve ever had, including the venerated IBM/Lenovo Thinkpads. (Don’t even get me started on how many problems I had with that horrendous trackpoint thing.) Since then, my only complaint about the MBP is the arrow key arrangement, which I will never adapt to, and the goddamn useless, laggy yet hypersensitive touchbar. When I have to use other people’s keyboards, I dislike their long travel now.
- kevinherron 7y agoNo, I like mine also. I'd be annoyed too if a bunch of my keys were sticking, but they aren't, so I guess I'm lucky.
- wmeredith 7y agoNo, but we’re just quietly working and using our macs. There’s obviously a problem, but it’s not the end of the world.
- dsego 7y agoI liked it when it worked. It's all about what you are used to I think. When typing on a mechanical keyboard for a while, even a thinkpad keyboard will seem like pressing on cardboard. But mine broke a lot and I managed to snap off the key caps, those are really fragile.