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I read this story in the most chilling manner: the same tactics they use to perform this analysis will eventually be used to link people who anonymously post no
by SOLAR_FIELDS 8y ago
I read this story in the most chilling manner: the same tactics they use to perform this analysis will eventually be used to link people who anonymously post now but might say something in the future that can be linked to them using the same type of analysis used here. To phrase in another way, we have come to a point where your very prose is a digital signature.
- ggggtez 8y agoI keep forgetting the general public is not aware of these things. Data is like nuclear waste. Everything you do online leaves a pattern of behavior that is unique to you. Your only saving grace is no one cares about you specifically, until they do.
- salutonmundo 8y agoPossible solution: run your text through a different machine translator for each account. Make minor corrections for cohesiveness.
- lostlogin 8y agoThere are rephrasing services available, presumably for helping users plagiarise. Some are laughable bad but possible helpful, while othersare quite good. Eg: https://quillbot.com/app https://quillbot.com/app https://paraphrasing-tool.com/ https://paraphrasing-tool.com/
- TheOperator 8y agoThis sort of analysis is older than Tolkien. There are pretty substantial processing requirements to do it at scale and it's pretty inaccurate. In the future people who say controversial things will use short sentence long statements to render this sort of analysis useless.
- _nedR 8y agoThis is already a thing. In fact the rumour is that the US govt discovered the identity of Bitcoin's Satoshi using this. https://medium.com/cryptomuse/how-the-nsa-caught-satoshi-nakamoto-868affcef595 https://medium.com/cryptomuse/how-the-nsa-caught-satoshi-nak...
- jmkni 8y agoI always thought Satoshi was more than one person, if this is true it would suggest otherwise.
- _nedR 8y agoActually in the article, the author says he got the impression it might be more than one person (but his sources do not confirm or deny it) which if true probably means the NSA found the writings to belong to several people. Sorry if my original comment seemed to imply otherwise.
- Xelbair 8y agohttps://github.com/psal/anonymouth https://github.com/psal/anonymouth
- viko-h 8y agosimple & obscure solution: google translate to another language and back to original.
- eru 8y agoThat will add a bit of entropy, but might not be enough.
- genera1 8y agoTo add additional entropy, you can do, multiple passes, use different sets of languages every time you write or even use different translator than GT
- gpderetta 8y agoFun fact of the day: Galactic Pothealer (written in 1969 by PKD) starts with the protagonist doing exactly this to play a game.
- jammygit 8y agoThe secret to the bad grammar in spam emails?
- kzrdude 8y agoAren't college students everywhere already exposed to this with every text, due to "plagiarism detection" software?
- lordnacho 8y agoBut the whole cat and mouse game hasn't really started yet. Once people find out what the algo looks at they can try to game it. Eg if you know or looks for the same phrases like "first of all" you can stop using that. Or if it looks at specific errors you can sprinkle it in one text but not another.
- stedaniels 8y agoEven better, it would be trivial to write a tool that rephrased what you wrote to be anonymous or even better/worse match someone else's signature.
- yogsototh 8y agoIt was already known that a simple Markov Chain was used to detect another author had written a chapter inside a book. It was in 2003 I think, unfortunately I cannot find a reference about this. Just to tell that Markov chains are a very basic and old ML method quite efficient for this kind of task.
- nothrabannosir 8y agoIn 2002 a Dutch newspaper discovered newcomer Marek van der Jagt to be Arnon Grunberg, a famous Dutch writer. They sent some blind samples of various writers to a research centre in Italy, who matched the two. https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2002/05/11/grunberg-is-van-der-jagt-7589390-a1067475 https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2002/05/11/grunberg-is-van-der-jag... (2002)
- cocochanel 8y agoIt's already a thing, see how the FBI caught Silkroad admin. Although not in the automated fashion that you suggest, I am pretty sure the algos are already in use.
- Simple_Guy 8y agoOnly a matter of time before AI-powered 'prose anonymiser' is developed. Then you can just run all your naughty words through the russian styliser.
- metastew 8y agoWasn't that how they caught the Unabomber? I saw a documentary about the guy who caught him by using this sort of analysis, although his method was quite analog (scanning through written letters and Unabomber's correspondences to the press).
- commandar 8y agoThe Unabomber was turned in by his brother, who recognized some unique phrasing in the released manifesto and reported it to authorities. EDIT: After looking, it looks like the brother turned him in after having this sort of analysis done to confirm his suspicions. So it does look like there's a tie to the story, but the analysis wasn't done blindly in that case.
- mmcwilliams 8y agoIsn't this the reason the grep was created? It was used to determine which parts of the Federalist Papers were written by which author.[0] Considering this occurred in 1974, I can only imagine that techniques for de-anonymizing authors have gotten much better due to how much written text individuals post on social media sites, like hn. Uh oh. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grep https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grep
- full-o-shit 8y agoStylometry isn't hard science. And it is vulnerable to attack. You can fake it. If you have a target to frame then it is possible to impersonate them. If you wish to evade detection then it is possible to attempt a disguise. It can be useful when looking at innocuous passages of text but the context of stylometry is ruined by an author aware of the technique.