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Yes, most people do not realize there is a problem. You have to use a different OS (Mac OS in my case) to discover how nice a working clipboard can be and to fe

by jwr 8y ago

Yes, most people do not realize there is a problem. You have to use a different OS (Mac OS in my case) to discover how nice a working clipboard can be and to feel the pain when going back to Linux.

yoodenvranx 8y ago
What problems do you have? I have been using KDE for the last few years and I never had a single problem with the clipboard.
kelvie 8y ago
I use Mac OS and (K)ubuntu about an equal amount nowadays, what's wrong with the handling on Linux DEs? If anything I find OS X more annoying, as things like screenshots into the clipboard work far less reliably.
fnord123 8y ago
Not sure if you're joking. So many programs are broken on OS X. Mostly Electron ones like Teams.
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- zapzupnz 8y ago
  That's the fault of (A) Electron and (B) developers who use Electron who (B.A) erroneously think that because Windows users don't mind having no menu bar then everybody else feels the same and (B.B) don't reimplement what Cocoa/Carbon give developers for free. It's not macOS' problem if people seem to prefer writing mediocre cross-platform apps than proper, native apps with full support for macOS-specific features like system-wide automation, proper integration with the system pasteboard, Quick Look, accessibility features, etc.
  - fnord123 8y ago
    Is it Gnome's fault that XTerm has shonky cut-paste behaviour? gnome-terminal works wonderfully. Or is this the projector problem again: when you plug a mac into a projector and it doesn't work, people blame the projector. When you plug a linux machine in, people blame linux.
    - zapzupnz 8y ago
      Of course it isn't GNOME's fault if xterm has shonky cut-paste behaviour, but that really only serves to back up my point — don't blame the system if one (or a handful of) apps happen to behave contradictorily to its conventions. I'd never heard of the projector problem, but given Linux's unreliable track record with multiple monitors, I'm not surprised people blame Linux. The problem as stated doesn't define whether or not the projector is actually at fault or not, so we can only really start diagnosis where intuition leads us.
eitland 8y ago
> and to feel the pain when going back to Linux. Used Mac for almost three years. Was enthusiastic when I got one and after close to three years enthusiastic to get back to Linux or even Windows. I realize Mac users experience it to be much better and I guess with a different workflow it is. I tried hard to pick it up. I failed miserably. Going back was a relief for me.

by jwr 8y ago

Yes, most people do not realize there is a problem. You have to use a different OS (Mac OS in my case) to discover how nice a working clipboard can be and to feel the pain when going back to Linux.

yoodenvranx 8y ago

What problems do you have? I have been using KDE for the last few years and I never had a single problem with the clipboard.

kelvie 8y ago

I use Mac OS and (K)ubuntu about an equal amount nowadays, what's wrong with the handling on Linux DEs? If anything I find OS X more annoying, as things like screenshots into the clipboard work far less reliably.

fnord123 8y ago

Not sure if you're joking. So many programs are broken on OS X. Mostly Electron ones like Teams.

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zapzupnz 8y ago
That's the fault of (A) Electron and (B) developers who use Electron who (B.A) erroneously think that because Windows users don't mind having no menu bar then everybody else feels the same and (B.B) don't reimplement what Cocoa/Carbon give developers for free. It's not macOS' problem if people seem to prefer writing mediocre cross-platform apps than proper, native apps with full support for macOS-specific features like system-wide automation, proper integration with the system pasteboard, Quick Look, accessibility features, etc.
- fnord123 8y ago
  Is it Gnome's fault that XTerm has shonky cut-paste behaviour? gnome-terminal works wonderfully. Or is this the projector problem again: when you plug a mac into a projector and it doesn't work, people blame the projector. When you plug a linux machine in, people blame linux.
  - zapzupnz 8y ago
    Of course it isn't GNOME's fault if xterm has shonky cut-paste behaviour, but that really only serves to back up my point — don't blame the system if one (or a handful of) apps happen to behave contradictorily to its conventions. I'd never heard of the projector problem, but given Linux's unreliable track record with multiple monitors, I'm not surprised people blame Linux. The problem as stated doesn't define whether or not the projector is actually at fault or not, so we can only really start diagnosis where intuition leads us.

eitland 8y ago

> and to feel the pain when going back to Linux. Used Mac for almost three years. Was enthusiastic when I got one and after close to three years enthusiastic to get back to Linux or even Windows. I realize Mac users experience it to be much better and I guess with a different workflow it is. I tried hard to pick it up. I failed miserably. Going back was a relief for me.