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What? I never realized there was a problem with clipboards on mainstream Linux desktops? Edit: after a couple of minutes of thinking I have found one single t

What? I never realized there was a problem with clipboards on mainstream Linux desktops? Edit: after a couple of minutes of thinking I have found one single thing that isn't consistent: when copying and pasting from/to a terminal I have to use ctrl + shift + c or ctrl + shift + v (understandable since ctrl + c is used to terminate running programs). Personally I guess cut, copy and paste should have been moved to Super + x/c/v since they are global os-level shortcuts, but it would break the habits of many of us so I guess that should be configurable as well.

isostatic 8y ago
> I never realized there was a problem with clipboards on mainstream Linux desktops? Highlight, middleclick, job done
- randoramax 8y ago
  This. The MacOS and Windows users have been missing on that powerful shortcut for years and now complain for a CTRL-SHIFT-C /V in terminal? Boohoo :)
  - isostatic 8y ago
    That's the problem, I don't care about whatever they do, but when they remove stuff that the rest of us have been using for decades because windows doesn't do it, that is a problem. Improvements shouldn't break things.
    - panpanna 8y ago
      Tell that to the gnome team whose main design philosophy is to remove things people love then fight really hard to justify it.
      - isostatic 8y ago
        I haven't used gnome since about 2000. Englightenment, IceWM, fluxbox, blackbox ring a bell, but it's been xfce for the last decade (well just the panel and the window manager)
- user5994461 8y ago
  Wasn't it right click?
  - justwalt 8y ago
    I think that’s copy on some terminals, but I think the parent is talking about paste.
- jandrese 8y ago
  Except that doesn't work sometimes on Gnome Terminal. I've never been able to pin down exactly what causes it to break, but I have some machines where I have to do the key combo to make the copy and paste work and it's really annoying. Also, annoying is if you highlight something, then hit ctrl-shift-v and it puts in the text from the other cut buffer. But the GP might be referring to the fact that copy and paste with anything but straight text is an outright shitshow on X. Compare to the copy and paste facilities from even ancient MacOS 6 it's downright stone age.
jwr 8y ago
Yes, most people do not realize there is a problem. You have to use a different OS (Mac OS in my case) to discover how nice a working clipboard can be and to feel the pain when going back to Linux.
- yoodenvranx 8y ago
  What problems do you have? I have been using KDE for the last few years and I never had a single problem with the clipboard.
- kelvie 8y ago
  I use Mac OS and (K)ubuntu about an equal amount nowadays, what's wrong with the handling on Linux DEs? If anything I find OS X more annoying, as things like screenshots into the clipboard work far less reliably.
- fnord123 8y ago
  Not sure if you're joking. So many programs are broken on OS X. Mostly Electron ones like Teams.
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  - zapzupnz 8y ago
    That's the fault of (A) Electron and (B) developers who use Electron who (B.A) erroneously think that because Windows users don't mind having no menu bar then everybody else feels the same and (B.B) don't reimplement what Cocoa/Carbon give developers for free. It's not macOS' problem if people seem to prefer writing mediocre cross-platform apps than proper, native apps with full support for macOS-specific features like system-wide automation, proper integration with the system pasteboard, Quick Look, accessibility features, etc.
    - fnord123 8y ago
      Is it Gnome's fault that XTerm has shonky cut-paste behaviour? gnome-terminal works wonderfully. Or is this the projector problem again: when you plug a mac into a projector and it doesn't work, people blame the projector. When you plug a linux machine in, people blame linux.
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ufo 8y ago
Regarding the terminal, on Gnome-terminal it is possible to rebind copy-paste to ctrl-c and ctrl-v. If you do this you need to start using ctrl+shift+C for ^C

isostatic 8y ago

> I never realized there was a problem with clipboards on mainstream Linux desktops? Highlight, middleclick, job done

randoramax 8y ago
This. The MacOS and Windows users have been missing on that powerful shortcut for years and now complain for a CTRL-SHIFT-C /V in terminal? Boohoo :)
- isostatic 8y ago
  That's the problem, I don't care about whatever they do, but when they remove stuff that the rest of us have been using for decades because windows doesn't do it, that is a problem. Improvements shouldn't break things.
  - panpanna 8y ago
    Tell that to the gnome team whose main design philosophy is to remove things people love then fight really hard to justify it.
    - isostatic 8y ago
      I haven't used gnome since about 2000. Englightenment, IceWM, fluxbox, blackbox ring a bell, but it's been xfce for the last decade (well just the panel and the window manager)
user5994461 8y ago
Wasn't it right click?
- justwalt 8y ago
  I think that’s copy on some terminals, but I think the parent is talking about paste.
jandrese 8y ago
Except that doesn't work sometimes on Gnome Terminal. I've never been able to pin down exactly what causes it to break, but I have some machines where I have to do the key combo to make the copy and paste work and it's really annoying. Also, annoying is if you highlight something, then hit ctrl-shift-v and it puts in the text from the other cut buffer. But the GP might be referring to the fact that copy and paste with anything but straight text is an outright shitshow on X. Compare to the copy and paste facilities from even ancient MacOS 6 it's downright stone age.

jwr 8y ago

Yes, most people do not realize there is a problem. You have to use a different OS (Mac OS in my case) to discover how nice a working clipboard can be and to feel the pain when going back to Linux.

yoodenvranx 8y ago
What problems do you have? I have been using KDE for the last few years and I never had a single problem with the clipboard.
kelvie 8y ago
I use Mac OS and (K)ubuntu about an equal amount nowadays, what's wrong with the handling on Linux DEs? If anything I find OS X more annoying, as things like screenshots into the clipboard work far less reliably.
fnord123 8y ago
Not sure if you're joking. So many programs are broken on OS X. Mostly Electron ones like Teams.
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- zapzupnz 8y ago
  That's the fault of (A) Electron and (B) developers who use Electron who (B.A) erroneously think that because Windows users don't mind having no menu bar then everybody else feels the same and (B.B) don't reimplement what Cocoa/Carbon give developers for free. It's not macOS' problem if people seem to prefer writing mediocre cross-platform apps than proper, native apps with full support for macOS-specific features like system-wide automation, proper integration with the system pasteboard, Quick Look, accessibility features, etc.
  - fnord123 8y ago
    Is it Gnome's fault that XTerm has shonky cut-paste behaviour? gnome-terminal works wonderfully. Or is this the projector problem again: when you plug a mac into a projector and it doesn't work, people blame the projector. When you plug a linux machine in, people blame linux.

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ufo 8y ago

Regarding the terminal, on Gnome-terminal it is possible to rebind copy-paste to ctrl-c and ctrl-v. If you do this you need to start using ctrl+shift+C for ^C