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I'm also not sure hospitals serving cheap calories when better options are available ought to disqualify the entire medical system. The people who make the dec

by mises 8y ago

I'm also not sure hospitals serving cheap calories when better options are available ought to disqualify the entire medical system. The people who make the decision to do that are corporate types and nurses, whereas the people who do medical research are doctors and those who do things of the sort mentioned in the article may be data scientists. It's not fair to disqualify the entire system based on one bad choice, and were it the greatest flaw of the medical system, we ought to thank God.

maxxxxx 8y ago
It definitely feels to me that the medical system is not really about "health" but about fixing things. A lot of doctors don't live particularly healthy lifestyles, hospitals feed junk food and so on. I am not saying they can't do their job but generally I think it would be better if part of working in the medical profession were to have a healthy lifestyle. For example a doctor who doesn't exercise himself or doesn't eat healthy food or is sleep deprived can sort of give advice to people but somebody who has first hand experience with a wholesome lifestyle can give much better, realistic advice. A while ago we had a nutritionist in the company lobby giving nutrition advice but the fact that she was quite overweight herself definitely didn't help her credibility.
FiddlyPack 8y ago
Not sure where “and nurses” is coming from in your comment. Nursing research is predominately on long-term patient outcome, whereas MD education is predominately on the disease / underlying cause. The nurses I know are more focused on and better educated on how holistic care serves the long-term outcomes of the patients, while docs are better educated to attend to the acute problems. I would expect a change to quality of calories provided in a hospital to originate from a DNP before a MD.
- mises 8y ago
  It is coming from exactly what you said, I would also expect a change to nutrition to originate from a DNP. My point is they have more control over day-to-day intake.
nradov 8y ago
Most hospitals now employ Registered Dieticians for meal planning. Nurses usually have little or no input.

by mises 8y ago

maxxxxx 8y ago

It definitely feels to me that the medical system is not really about "health" but about fixing things. A lot of doctors don't live particularly healthy lifestyles, hospitals feed junk food and so on. I am not saying they can't do their job but generally I think it would be better if part of working in the medical profession were to have a healthy lifestyle. For example a doctor who doesn't exercise himself or doesn't eat healthy food or is sleep deprived can sort of give advice to people but somebody who has first hand experience with a wholesome lifestyle can give much better, realistic advice. A while ago we had a nutritionist in the company lobby giving nutrition advice but the fact that she was quite overweight herself definitely didn't help her credibility.

FiddlyPack 8y ago

Not sure where “and nurses” is coming from in your comment. Nursing research is predominately on long-term patient outcome, whereas MD education is predominately on the disease / underlying cause. The nurses I know are more focused on and better educated on how holistic care serves the long-term outcomes of the patients, while docs are better educated to attend to the acute problems. I would expect a change to quality of calories provided in a hospital to originate from a DNP before a MD.

mises 8y ago
It is coming from exactly what you said, I would also expect a change to nutrition to originate from a DNP. My point is they have more control over day-to-day intake.

nradov 8y ago

Most hospitals now employ Registered Dieticians for meal planning. Nurses usually have little or no input.