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It appears that next year Sony will be releasing a console with similar specs to the PC I purchased last year. One key difference being that while the PS5 will

It appears that next year Sony will be releasing a console with similar specs to the PC I purchased last year. One key difference being that while the PS5 will be backwards compatible with PS4 games, any PC is backwards compatible with virtually every PC game ever made. If there's a case to be made for purchasing a next gen console instead of a gaming PC - other than artificial reasons like exclusive titles - I'd like to hear it.

ricardobeat 7y ago
What are the parts in that PC that can do 8K with ray tracing? To start with, you’re probably looking at $399 vs $2k.
- frou_dh 7y ago
  The PS5 rendering games at 8K as a matter of course is not going to happen. We always get outlandish supercomputer hype preceding every console generation. It's a story as old as time!
  - ricardobeat 7y ago
    Neither will a PC, that's what I wanted to know about from the previous commenter.
    - Dylan16807 7y ago
      The claim was that the PC has similar specs to the actual console, not the hype ghost of a console. I believe it does, but I bet they didn't pay $500. I'm sure "8K" in practice just means "HDMI 2.1"
fetus8 7y ago
Not sure that Exclusive Titles is an artificial reason. Some of the best games I've experienced have been released/published by Sony and their first party studios. The quality, story, characters, and graphically fidelity are often unrivaled by their contemporaries. God Of War(2018), Horizon Zero Dawn, the Uncharted series, and Shadow of the Colossus (remake) are some of my favorite releases of this generation. I'll gladly plunk down $400+ for their next gen console for more games like that, I don't focus on the tech specs, but rather the experience their platform provides.
- wccrawford 7y ago
  IMO, the difference is between titles that wouldn't exist without Sony, and titles that Sony paid to have the exclusive for, but it wasn't actually necessary to have the game exist. I think for the most part that Sony does the former, and I'm fine with that. Epic has been getting a lock of Flack lately for doing the latter. Games that were already on Steam were taken off Steam because Epic paid for exclusivity. That's just scummy, IMO.
  - agumonkey 7y ago
    Real world is rarely driven by necessity but by happenity. Lots of thing could happen without X,Y,Z in theory; but the reality is that exclusive titles on slightly specialized hardware capture developpers mind more than PC
- foobarbazetc 7y ago
  I love Horizon Zero Dawn so much. Oh, and Last of Us. Both those games were magic.
foobarbazetc 7y ago
This is a boring argument. I don’t have time to mess around with PCs and driver updates and what not, and I like sitting on the couch with a controller playing on my TV. Add the exclusives and that’s enough incentive to spend $300-$400.
jplayer01 7y ago
Convenience? Single-minded focus? Price? Local coop? People don't want to fuck around with Windows when they play games. They want to pop in a disc and play (once the damn thing has finished installing the game and updates). 99% of my gaming is on my PC, and I really, really don't get why PC gamers are always like "Omg, but consoles are so much more inferior, why doesn't everybody just buy a PC?????" People like consoles. I'm fine with that. Why aren't you?
chaostheory 7y ago
I agreed with you until you got to exclusive titles. Despite Sony's past blunders like the PS3, they did good work with exclusive titles, and it's real reason to have a Playstation. Unlike Epic's exclusives, they're not just timed either. Also most if not all of Sony's back library will run on the latest PlayStation because Sony bought Gaikai years ago. Everything said, I still like PCs better than consoles, and Sony has a history of overhyping their hardware. I'd be surprised if it has good performance in 4k let alone 8k.
beenBoutIT 7y ago
The ability to put in a disk and play a game without checking DRM or doing anything other than pressing start. That, and the massive advantage of not having to mess around with tuning graphics settings.
EpicEng 7y ago
>other than artificial reasons like exclusive titles - I'd like to hear it That is literally the reason for the tech inclined, and it's not artificial. The politics behind it don't matter; if I want to play X and I can only play it on console Y, guess what I'm going to buy? Other than that, consoles are still cheaper than building a comparable gaming rig. Not by a huge margin, but still cheaper, and people already ha e nice TVs to play on (so don't ignore the cost of a monitor.) Beyond price, the fact is that building a rig is harder than plugging in a console. I know it's not _hard_, but most people just don't want to deal with it.

ricardobeat 7y ago

What are the parts in that PC that can do 8K with ray tracing? To start with, you’re probably looking at $399 vs $2k.

frou_dh 7y ago
The PS5 rendering games at 8K as a matter of course is not going to happen. We always get outlandish supercomputer hype preceding every console generation. It's a story as old as time!
- ricardobeat 7y ago
  Neither will a PC, that's what I wanted to know about from the previous commenter.
  - Dylan16807 7y ago
    The claim was that the PC has similar specs to the actual console, not the hype ghost of a console. I believe it does, but I bet they didn't pay $500. I'm sure "8K" in practice just means "HDMI 2.1"

fetus8 7y ago

Not sure that Exclusive Titles is an artificial reason. Some of the best games I've experienced have been released/published by Sony and their first party studios. The quality, story, characters, and graphically fidelity are often unrivaled by their contemporaries. God Of War(2018), Horizon Zero Dawn, the Uncharted series, and Shadow of the Colossus (remake) are some of my favorite releases of this generation. I'll gladly plunk down $400+ for their next gen console for more games like that, I don't focus on the tech specs, but rather the experience their platform provides.

wccrawford 7y ago
IMO, the difference is between titles that wouldn't exist without Sony, and titles that Sony paid to have the exclusive for, but it wasn't actually necessary to have the game exist. I think for the most part that Sony does the former, and I'm fine with that. Epic has been getting a lock of Flack lately for doing the latter. Games that were already on Steam were taken off Steam because Epic paid for exclusivity. That's just scummy, IMO.
- agumonkey 7y ago
  Real world is rarely driven by necessity but by happenity. Lots of thing could happen without X,Y,Z in theory; but the reality is that exclusive titles on slightly specialized hardware capture developpers mind more than PC
foobarbazetc 7y ago
I love Horizon Zero Dawn so much. Oh, and Last of Us. Both those games were magic.

foobarbazetc 7y ago

This is a boring argument. I don’t have time to mess around with PCs and driver updates and what not, and I like sitting on the couch with a controller playing on my TV. Add the exclusives and that’s enough incentive to spend $300-$400.

jplayer01 7y ago

Convenience? Single-minded focus? Price? Local coop? People don't want to fuck around with Windows when they play games. They want to pop in a disc and play (once the damn thing has finished installing the game and updates). 99% of my gaming is on my PC, and I really, really don't get why PC gamers are always like "Omg, but consoles are so much more inferior, why doesn't everybody just buy a PC?????" People like consoles. I'm fine with that. Why aren't you?

chaostheory 7y ago

I agreed with you until you got to exclusive titles. Despite Sony's past blunders like the PS3, they did good work with exclusive titles, and it's real reason to have a Playstation. Unlike Epic's exclusives, they're not just timed either. Also most if not all of Sony's back library will run on the latest PlayStation because Sony bought Gaikai years ago. Everything said, I still like PCs better than consoles, and Sony has a history of overhyping their hardware. I'd be surprised if it has good performance in 4k let alone 8k.

beenBoutIT 7y ago

The ability to put in a disk and play a game without checking DRM or doing anything other than pressing start. That, and the massive advantage of not having to mess around with tuning graphics settings.

EpicEng 7y ago

>other than artificial reasons like exclusive titles - I'd like to hear it That is literally the reason for the tech inclined, and it's not artificial. The politics behind it don't matter; if I want to play X and I can only play it on console Y, guess what I'm going to buy? Other than that, consoles are still cheaper than building a comparable gaming rig. Not by a huge margin, but still cheaper, and people already ha e nice TVs to play on (so don't ignore the cost of a monitor.) Beyond price, the fact is that building a rig is harder than plugging in a console. I know it's not _hard_, but most people just don't want to deal with it.