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> Windows has come with ZIP handling built in to its file explorer ever since Windows XP. Although it's been molasses-slow in comparison to 3rd party tools sin

> Windows has come with ZIP handling built in to its file explorer ever since Windows XP. Although it's been molasses-slow in comparison to 3rd party tools since that time as well.

smacktoward 8y ago
True, but it's Good Enough for most people, who only deal with ZIP files infrequently and generally only ever encounter relatively small ones. When I talk to these folks and probe why they think they need WinZip, they never say "oh, I was trying to uncompress a 7GB file the other day in Explorer and it took forever." They say "I'm on Windows, and this is a Zip, therefore I need WinZip." They're usually genuinely surprised to find out that this is something Windows can do all by itself.
angott 8y ago
Does anybody know why this happens? I don't think MSFT would really have issues finding some software engineers to fix this.
- jraph 8y ago
  I guess this is the reason: https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20180515-00/?p=98755 https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20180515-00/?p=98... > Since its release in Windows XP, Zip folders has not been actively developed. The reason is the usual: Because adding features requires engineering resources, and engineering resources are limited. Furthermore, since the compression and decompression code weren’t written by anybody from Microsoft, there is no expertise in the code base, which means that debugging and making changes is a very difficult undertaking.
  - code_duck 8y ago
    “Because adding features requires engineering resources, and engineering resources are limited.“ seems to translate to ‘because we really don’t care’. It’s not as if Microsoft is strapped for cash.
    - metildaa 8y ago
      At least they haven't purged it, if this were Google then there would be no ZIP support in newer OS versions. They even killed ChromeOS ans Chorme updates for a bunch of 3 to 4 year old Chromebooks recently, despite the hardware being fine to run newer ChromeOS.
- magduf 8y ago
  Why should they? Are they going to make more money if they fix it? Of course not; people aren't basing their usage of Windows on the performance of the built-in unzipper. Advanced users just install a 3rd-party tool, the clueless masses just use the built-in thing and wait and think it's normal. Companies like Microsoft don't care about building the best product they can; they only care about maximizing profits, so the solution that's "good enough" is what they go with. What they have works, poorly, and costs them nothing to maintain, so that's what they stick with.

> Windows has come with ZIP handling built in to its file explorer ever since Windows XP. Although it's been molasses-slow in comparison to 3rd party tools since that time as well.

smacktoward 8y ago

True, but it's Good Enough for most people, who only deal with ZIP files infrequently and generally only ever encounter relatively small ones. When I talk to these folks and probe why they think they need WinZip, they never say "oh, I was trying to uncompress a 7GB file the other day in Explorer and it took forever." They say "I'm on Windows, and this is a Zip, therefore I need WinZip." They're usually genuinely surprised to find out that this is something Windows can do all by itself.

angott 8y ago

Does anybody know why this happens? I don't think MSFT would really have issues finding some software engineers to fix this.

jraph 8y ago
I guess this is the reason: https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20180515-00/?p=98755 https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20180515-00/?p=98... > Since its release in Windows XP, Zip folders has not been actively developed. The reason is the usual: Because adding features requires engineering resources, and engineering resources are limited. Furthermore, since the compression and decompression code weren’t written by anybody from Microsoft, there is no expertise in the code base, which means that debugging and making changes is a very difficult undertaking.
- code_duck 8y ago
  “Because adding features requires engineering resources, and engineering resources are limited.“ seems to translate to ‘because we really don’t care’. It’s not as if Microsoft is strapped for cash.
  - metildaa 8y ago
    At least they haven't purged it, if this were Google then there would be no ZIP support in newer OS versions. They even killed ChromeOS ans Chorme updates for a bunch of 3 to 4 year old Chromebooks recently, despite the hardware being fine to run newer ChromeOS.
magduf 8y ago
Why should they? Are they going to make more money if they fix it? Of course not; people aren't basing their usage of Windows on the performance of the built-in unzipper. Advanced users just install a 3rd-party tool, the clueless masses just use the built-in thing and wait and think it's normal. Companies like Microsoft don't care about building the best product they can; they only care about maximizing profits, so the solution that's "good enough" is what they go with. What they have works, poorly, and costs them nothing to maintain, so that's what they stick with.