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Ironically, the exact same site greets users with a cookie warning, training them towards the behavior they were surprised about.

by moring 8y ago

jve 8y ago
Brexit can provide them a way to remove that nonsense. I mean they will be free to adjust their local laws away from EU regulations where needed.
- yardstick 8y ago
  Many sites outside EU jurisdiction still abide by EU privacy/cookie laws. Not all for sure. It is typically easier for a developer to target the most demanding laws for all users vs different experiences and more code paths to dynamically offer based on region. I don’t expect anything to change in this regard. The bigger problem about these nag screens is the poor UX. I often just accept the defaults because it is far, far quicker than trying to find the Opt out option. I especially hate sites that then take you to a config screen to pick and choose from providers. All I want is a binary Yes or No, with each option getting equal equivalence in the UI.
  - anoncake 8y ago
    > I often just accept the defaults because it is far, far quicker than trying to find the Opt out option. That is why opt-out is illegal.
    - yardstick 8y ago
      Agreed. I guess the sites I'm complaining about are technically opt-in by legal terms, although opt-out in usability terms (making the no tracking option far more hassle than the yes tracking option)
      - alxlaz 8y ago
        The legal definition of "opt-out" is exactly the same as the "usability" definition: if you need to click anything other than "OK" in order to opt out of being tracked, then it's opt-in.
        anoncake 8y ago
        Which means that > Many sites outside EU jurisdiction still abide by EU privacy/cookie laws. is completely wrong. I would not be surprised if those popups put many sites out of compliance because they mean that the site is targeted at EU citizens.
- pbhjpbhj 8y ago
  Or just not track people [with cookies] when it's not essential?
- ellimilial 8y ago
  Sure, and get 350 mln a week to fund NHS.
  - anoncake 8y ago
    The UK weakening privacy laws when they can do so actually sounds very plausible.

Ironically, the exact same site greets users with a cookie warning, training them towards the behavior they were surprised about.

by moring 8y ago

Ironically, the exact same site greets users with a cookie warning, training them towards the behavior they were surprised about.

jve 8y ago

Brexit can provide them a way to remove that nonsense. I mean they will be free to adjust their local laws away from EU regulations where needed.

yardstick 8y ago
Many sites outside EU jurisdiction still abide by EU privacy/cookie laws. Not all for sure. It is typically easier for a developer to target the most demanding laws for all users vs different experiences and more code paths to dynamically offer based on region. I don’t expect anything to change in this regard. The bigger problem about these nag screens is the poor UX. I often just accept the defaults because it is far, far quicker than trying to find the Opt out option. I especially hate sites that then take you to a config screen to pick and choose from providers. All I want is a binary Yes or No, with each option getting equal equivalence in the UI.
- anoncake 8y ago
  > I often just accept the defaults because it is far, far quicker than trying to find the Opt out option. That is why opt-out is illegal.
  - yardstick 8y ago
    Agreed. I guess the sites I'm complaining about are technically opt-in by legal terms, although opt-out in usability terms (making the no tracking option far more hassle than the yes tracking option)
    - alxlaz 8y ago
      The legal definition of "opt-out" is exactly the same as the "usability" definition: if you need to click anything other than "OK" in order to opt out of being tracked, then it's opt-in.
      - anoncake 8y ago
        Which means that > Many sites outside EU jurisdiction still abide by EU privacy/cookie laws. is completely wrong. I would not be surprised if those popups put many sites out of compliance because they mean that the site is targeted at EU citizens.
pbhjpbhj 8y ago
Or just not track people [with cookies] when it's not essential?
ellimilial 8y ago
Sure, and get 350 mln a week to fund NHS.
- anoncake 8y ago
  The UK weakening privacy laws when they can do so actually sounds very plausible.