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And be prepared for the 180 degree turn in the liberal circles when the Republicans try to get him executed. With friends like the Democrats do progressives re

by antt 7y ago

And be prepared for the 180 degree turn in the liberal circles when the Republicans try to get him executed. With friends like the Democrats do progressives really need enemies?

jkaplowitz 7y ago
According to the article, the crime for which he'd be extradited has a maximum penalty of five years in prison, not death.
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- isostatic 7y ago
  If it did attract a death penalty he would be ineligible for extradition.
- antt 7y ago
  1 hours ago it was 1 year for skipping bail. At the rate at which the maximum sentence is growing we should be seeing him hung and quartered by mid day tomorrow.
  - jkaplowitz 7y ago
    The extradition request arrived in 2012, but they managed to keep it secret until this arrest. Now that official press releases have come out from both countries, we know the charge underlying the extradition. The fact sheet linked from the UK press release explains that the rules for UK->US extradition would require consent from the UK, including consideration by the UK courts, of any additional offenses that the US may want to add while they have him in connection with this extradition. https://homeofficemedia.blog.gov.uk/2019/04/11/extradition-factsheet/ https://homeofficemedia.blog.gov.uk/2019/04/11/extradition-f... They may very well approve some additional offenses, but probably not ones with the death penalty.
- idlewords 7y ago
  That beard deserves the death penalty, though.
api 7y ago
I think it's entirely possible that he did work for Trump, did serve as a vehicle for Russian propaganda, and is being thanked for it by being arrested under orders by the Trump administration. Authoritarian types have never historically displayed any loyalty to lower level useful idiots who helped them get into power. Trump also gave Bannon the boot pretty much immediately. Maybe that wing of his 2016 team is now considered a liability.
- antt 7y ago
  So do you think Trump was a puppet of Russia too?
  - api 7y ago
    No. I think he or possibly his underlings were more than willing to accept Russian help with little regard for legality, and Russia had their own reasons (personal hatred for Hillary Clinton by Putin, sanctions, etc.) for preferring Trump. I think Trump would like to be Putin and to re-make America as a Russian-style gangster state with himself and his family as mafia dons. He's not Putin's puppet and has no loyalty to him. Trump is too narcissistic to (consciously) be anyone's puppet. BTW I also think Trump has no special loyalty to the alt-right types he rode into office and would toss them under the bus as well (as he did with Bannon). Trump has no beliefs except winning and amassing power and money. He'd flip to far-left socialism in a day if he thought it would be a better route to power. Just my opinion for what it's worth.
- OrgNet 7y ago
  Why do you think they made up that theory?

by antt 7y ago

And be prepared for the 180 degree turn in the liberal circles when the Republicans try to get him executed. With friends like the Democrats do progressives really need enemies?

jkaplowitz 7y ago

According to the article, the crime for which he'd be extradited has a maximum penalty of five years in prison, not death.

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isostatic 7y ago
If it did attract a death penalty he would be ineligible for extradition.
antt 7y ago
1 hours ago it was 1 year for skipping bail. At the rate at which the maximum sentence is growing we should be seeing him hung and quartered by mid day tomorrow.
- jkaplowitz 7y ago
  The extradition request arrived in 2012, but they managed to keep it secret until this arrest. Now that official press releases have come out from both countries, we know the charge underlying the extradition. The fact sheet linked from the UK press release explains that the rules for UK->US extradition would require consent from the UK, including consideration by the UK courts, of any additional offenses that the US may want to add while they have him in connection with this extradition. https://homeofficemedia.blog.gov.uk/2019/04/11/extradition-factsheet/ https://homeofficemedia.blog.gov.uk/2019/04/11/extradition-f... They may very well approve some additional offenses, but probably not ones with the death penalty.
idlewords 7y ago
That beard deserves the death penalty, though.

api 7y ago

I think it's entirely possible that he did work for Trump, did serve as a vehicle for Russian propaganda, and is being thanked for it by being arrested under orders by the Trump administration. Authoritarian types have never historically displayed any loyalty to lower level useful idiots who helped them get into power. Trump also gave Bannon the boot pretty much immediately. Maybe that wing of his 2016 team is now considered a liability.

antt 7y ago
So do you think Trump was a puppet of Russia too?
- api 7y ago
  No. I think he or possibly his underlings were more than willing to accept Russian help with little regard for legality, and Russia had their own reasons (personal hatred for Hillary Clinton by Putin, sanctions, etc.) for preferring Trump. I think Trump would like to be Putin and to re-make America as a Russian-style gangster state with himself and his family as mafia dons. He's not Putin's puppet and has no loyalty to him. Trump is too narcissistic to (consciously) be anyone's puppet. BTW I also think Trump has no special loyalty to the alt-right types he rode into office and would toss them under the bus as well (as he did with Bannon). Trump has no beliefs except winning and amassing power and money. He'd flip to far-left socialism in a day if he thought it would be a better route to power. Just my opinion for what it's worth.
OrgNet 7y ago
Why do you think they made up that theory?